Photography as an object of investment

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KaterinaMN, would you explain to someone that doing art photography, but do not remove the memory of the tour in Thailand.

It's like the next topic compare Konstantin Latyshev with Posavnd.
What? Both artists ...

[KaterinaMN]

Chernomashentsev Vladimir,
You know, I will say this: I have a lot of good friends photographers. present. those who are called photo artists - although this term and I do not like.
So even among them there are at least 2 categories: those who used primarily a tool, regardless of the plot, which is removed. and those who constantly use different tools.
First, in general, more, and although often - this is one tool - this is the period. months \\ years holga. or pinhole.
or formatted camera.
in most cases - have favorite lenses \\ camera.
general - latitude arsenal is more important for custom shootings - when we can not give the result. and the artists themselves to still use something particularly liked.
Ludmila Tabolina, for example, removes virtually only a monocle, and Andrei Chezhin - makes most of its multiple exposure to the closure of the lens in turn. Nadia Kuznetsova combines graphics and photography. Dmitry Rubinstein makes it almost one Ambrotype now, and Alexei Alexeev. Roma Ekimov color does not remove the slide, and uses the figure. Zhenya Ma - has its own specifics, and Eugene Mokhorev recognizable in the first place for their subjects with adolescents.
IMHO - it's all a question of artistic underscores.

By the way - in about fishaya - the same Roma Ekimov they just architecture and removes.
but in general - you are in Moscow now, \\ always a lot of very good fotomeropriyaty. just need to know where they are. especially in May, the exhibition will come to watch the boys. here in St. Petersburg, compared with Moscow, much less good Photoevents.

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I had got something that you have to say (maybe - so I heard) about dogma. and the only way. landscape - only Shirikov, portrait - 50 (although in the classics - 50 for portraits - a little too small).

[Черномашенцев Владимир]

Сообщение от BAGIRA

Rent DSC-F828. Camera I like. Photography since childhood.
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Thanks
Hm, do not expect to see you have such a heavy object. Still, girls like to buy big black cameras. I judge this to his daughter. You do not bother to wear a weight?

No offense, but despite the semi-professional camera, your examples leave me exactly the impression that I had already written. So I was somewhat shocked by your SONY. Perhaps with a more compact camera, you will be more convenient to work with?

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Сообщение от BAGIRA

By the way, any pro knows that the old technology is the thing, it really works !!!!

Creativity? Or efforts to combat the shortcomings of the old technology?
Why do not we ride our carts, and does not light candles and kerosene lamps at home?

You just romantic.

[KaterinaMN]

Chernomashentsev Vladimir,

I will not argue that the technology develops and provides a good camera \\ Technology <!--~ a ~-->))
I travel not to Zhiguli, and Subaru.
and watering the new going too make yourself.

I am not arguing that the new better than the old \\ old best new. is a matter of taste, as you correctly noted. and not even that figure is better or film.

I categorically disagree with only one your tezzisom (though he might, and intermediate for you) - that each genre has its own tool, best suited for this genre. there is still a bit of macro caught a <!--~ ~-->)
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all - do not want to argue - for the issue we have with your self-destructed: master - he is always the master. and just as important to a broad range of what was to make a choice - da.da.da. Of course you are right.

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History for me is more important than photography. everything is much simpler: when I'm shooting for myself - I do not care what it is to shoot (this means that I can shoot almost everything, everything). is important to me is the image that will be the output .
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and you did not touch me (in the sense - that does not hurt <!--~ a ~-->)), as well - certainly did have touched - once the discussion started) - the conversation went something interesting, though for us with you I think that in photography it is important to several of them.

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Сообщение от Chernomashentsev Vladimir

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Creativity? Or efforts to combat the shortcomings of the old technology?

If the struggle with disabilities - means any vehicle is bad. or she does not know how to use.

technique should be adequate to the task of art and is convenient to the person who uses it. is the only truly important.

[BAGIRA]

I do not like small. I like the old: Roleh, the Pentagon ... But I do not have. I remember when the studio time to write-off and came Accounting, headed by the chief accountant Shashkova with a hammer in his hand to smash these cameras (working fine and every clip on 6000 for currency) from my boss had a heart attack. Across the Union, dangled with this technique. We (photographers, artists) stood chest and not allowed to split. A piece of memories.

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And as for the carts - to be rolled. Suggest and everyone would go, and even in what mood and laughter. That's where the goodness popret ...

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And as candles and kerosene lamps: The people here our girls, visiting the Russian church here doing this once a month.

[Черномашенцев Владимир]

Сообщение от BAGIRA

I do not like small. I like the old: Roleh, the Pentagon ...

I'd venture to recommend you to pay attention to a compact camera that can shoot entirely on the level of entry-level digital SLR such as those that KaterinyMN. My friend, the photographer I bought this as a second camera that is always with you. It has a good lens Leica c with a large aperture f2 and wide enough focal length of 24 mm equivalent of 35 mm. (Admittedly, a small zoom). Very high sensitivity of the matrix and low digital noise. Draws off shots where more serious cameras had started to Lajoux. Checked.
The device is cheap for a compact camera (about 18-20 thousand rubles.), But it's worth it. This is a Panasonic DMC-LX3. You can also Canon G-11, but it is bigger. They differ from the "compact digital cameras (including yours) of a larger matrix, which dramatically increases the possibilities.

[BAGIRA]

You are right, Maiga.

[Черномашенцев Владимир]

Сообщение от BAGIRA

And as for the carts - to be rolled. Suggest and everyone would go, and even in what mood and laughter. That's where the goodness popret ...
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And as candles and kerosene lamps: The people here our girls, visiting the Russian church here doing this once a month.

Sorry, I understand you correctly. If you take all this as an expensive game - and why not. Then you and the century-old camera shoot. I have something more earthly man.

[Тютчев]

Сообщение от Chernomashentsev Vladimir

for ... under ...

You can hammer nails and a camera ... but somehow uncomfortable.
How to do without technology? Even I, not being a photographer, I can not get to rent equipment below a certain class. It's disgusting.

Сообщение от Chernomashentsev Vladimir

I think that history is more important for you to photograph. You are pleased to work with antiques. Do you think that the modern Hasselblad, Mamiya, Leica will shoot any worse?

Alas, technology develops. You can compare cars beginning in 1920 and the beginning of 21 century. Looks beautiful antiques, but the ride uncomfortable. So in optics - have since appeared aspherical lenses, nizkodispersionnoe glass mnogolinzovye lenses. All the things that were a hundred years ago, and 50.
But you have every right to do, if you so much.

Chernomashentsev Vladimir, you are too important betraying the technical side of the issue. It is natural for a man who has recently started filming. To pay so much attention to techniques and technologies - it does not bad, but it is still early stage. Stage review. When you satisfy your curiosity and spend a lot of money, you will inevitably come to the fact that much more important role played by experience, talent and something else.

As an illustration of his words, I suggest you look at photographs Alexander Rodchenko, made almost a century ago. You understand that technique and technology in those days were at much lower level than now. But look, what images the artist does! From a technical point of view, they are blameless. But there is another Wyżne, they have a personal handwriting of the great master, a style, there is something more than technology and equipment. This - ART!

[Черномашенцев Владимир]

Сообщение от Tjutchev

The works of Alexander Rodchenko:

For God's sake, do not compare God's gift and yaishnitsu. Receptions Rodchenko long been in all textbooks photography. But it seemed to me that our photographers consider reading books below their dostoistva.

Yes, and I did not have to write about Rodchenko, I do not claim to be a photographer. But BAGIRA would not hurt to learn to begin instruction on his cell to avoid the banal errors.

I am sure that in our days Rodchenko would work with the best technology.

Comparing with Rodchenko's better known on this forum say Malevich, Rodchenko, which is known precisely because he first thought of many fotopriemy included in the classics of the genre. As the first Malevich painted a black square. But who can now be interesting to followers of Malevich, let them draw more black squares?