Forgery paintings Burliuk at Four Corners

[Allena]

OlegTsi, thank you!
Special thanks to Michael100 for continuing conversation about this film!

[Amateur]

Сообщение от OlegTsi

Dear Allena, I completely forgot that promised to answer the question that you asked me a few months ago (on the picture of the atom). Only now, when this subject vvorvalas new stream of temperament, flipped through all the things written and said unfulfilled promises.

I bring a photo of work. Oil on canvas, 13 x 12 inches (33 x 30,5 cm). Sold at Sotheby's in 1979 for 16,500 dollars in Estimé - 18-25 thousand

Work has solid provenance and exhibited in many exhibitions. Here we will Michael100, he has a lot of literature.

Published more than once in periodicals, including the magazine America in 1972, number 192 in the USSR and 165 in the journal Ameryka in Poland.

Title Nucleus (Atom), 1913.


Amateur quote
"I have long and so far unsuccessfully been looking for a reproduction of this painting and would be very grateful to those who have laid it on the forum."

Well, spread.

Thank you very much!
You every success in the coming New Year!

[tivoli]

If the independent chemist "says pro lab ARTLAB, I would not be cunning in his place. After all, everyone knows that the Founding Four Corners is a cofounder of ARTLABA. And with Burliuk have one big problem. She concludes in the next 50-60 years and the work of the paint layer is not fully cured, ie, it remains relatively myagkm can be difficult but the needle is inserted into it. For our chemists are outrageous, chauvinistic thing they know for sure that even the work was written 30 years ago, should turn to stone. They have no standards with which to compare, there is no base, it is unknown fillers, etc., and mn.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Liza

How nice that Art investment seminars on the examination - it is so important, many, unfortunately, not always understand the capabilities and limitations of a method.

And that's Workshop number 9, "Examination of beautiful works of art." Abstracts of the report.
http://artinvestment.ru/news/artnews...expertiza.html

[Liza]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

And here Workshop number 9, "Examination of beautiful works of art." Abstracts of the report.
http://artinvestment.ru/news/artnews...expertiza.html

Thanks Kirill, just super! Abstracts of the report, every art dealer, collector and gallery owner has to fix in their workplace - is something that should require the examination. Edinstvnennoe, I would have added the trace IR (hidden signature, the underlying figures etal.). Sometimes (not always) it can replace radiographs. Were you at the seminar? These things are well in practice, showing - for example, that's the standard range of white lead early 20 th century, but the spectrum of suspected white investigated the same period - what we see when comparing - etc. Or X-ray and infrared traces - which can be seen preparatory drawings or hidden signature (not the ones on canvas). It is interesting and instructive.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Liza

or X-ray and infrared traces - which can be seen preparatory drawings or hidden signature (not the ones on canvas). It is interesting and instructive.

I have these x-rays, the whole house.

[Liza]

Сообщение от tivoli

If the independent chemist "says pro lab ARTLAB, I would not be cunning in his place. After all, everyone knows that the Founding Four Corners is a cofounder of ARTLABA. And with Burliuk have one big problem. She concludes in the next 50-60 years and the work of the paint layer is not fully cured, ie, it remains relatively myagkm can be difficult but the needle is inserted into it. For our chemists are outrageous, chauvinistic thing they know for sure that even the work was written 30 years ago, should turn to stone. They have no standards with which to compare, there is no base, it is unknown fillers, etc., and tp.

I do not know what you call "our chemists" (Ukrainian or what?), But the binders are different, including preserving Elastic long time. The basis of such relationships - not oil. For the first time they began to produce in the U.S. in the 50 years, the firm Gamblin, in Europe, these products have mastered only by the mid 60's. Technology has changed since then thrice. I purposely did not write that kind of binder, but I assure, FTIR spetry is well demonstrated. If you have work Burliuk, which causes or is not in doubt - write to me personally and we agree on a mutually beneficial joint work.
Actually the name of the topic wrong - for me Burliuk hurt. Maybe a new topic on it to create?

Added after 20 minutes

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

That's right on that was. At the single.

I have these x-rays, the whole house. "Throw-pity, and his work they have done already.

And it was such a "practice"-a whole year.

So you are all handy - or not? Just when a person has a great experience - it can be to the eye to determine what defines an expert with the equipment. But, unfortunately, now too many people consider themselves to be art experts, and sometimes self-confidence can bring. I faced with those and others.
With regard to the technological expertise - it obetivnaya reality, if you know what was expected of her to wait.
In general, ideally, when a good art works with the class expert - for me an example of such work tandem Tsytovich-Lugina and their study Aivazovsky (2002).
Now waiting for a new book Grönberg and Co. for paints 20 th century.
And I like to read this forum, in particular, you, Kirill - always interesting, correctly and on topic.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Liza

So you are all handy - or not?

Useful? Probably.
This was the condition of the client. After X-rays he had a fairly quiet, now acquired, and the film left me "on the memory.

Сообщение от Liza

I still love reading this forum, in particular, you, Kirill - always interesting, correctly and on topic.

Thank you.

[OlegTsi]

Сообщение от Liza

Actually the name of the topic wrong - I for Burliuk hurt.

Dear Lisa. We always look forward to reading your posts, are directly related to your profession - the methods of laboratory research subjects of painting.

I regret not for Burliuk. I am very sorry for having fake Burliuk missed the customers of this study. It's a shame for the fact that you are including trying to prove otherwise. You are, after all, a person close to the painting, you see every day pictures, strokes, handwriting, canvases, etc. Go back to the beginning of the topic and take a look at two pictures, presented by me. The one that depicts the House of Burliuk (without book) - is a beautiful original work of DD Burliuk. The one that with a book and called the home of Van Gogh - is a blatant falsification under Burliuk. Are you including others who objected strongly to my topic, do not see a different handwriting style, in the end energy? This is me today has again raised the old and argue with a man, absolutely not far from the art? But did you know that the book in the present work Burliuk almost always carried a meaning? It was not just thrown into the grass book, as painted malevaka sion.

I understand you defending their own version, thus protects the customers of the chemical. study.

Once again, I will allow to ask - why expose Chem. Analysis of Burliuk, if they match your original statement? Only in this case at the Four Corners (I think) in doubt and your lab did a disservice to those who bought the work for a lot of money.

You know, when the work was evaluated surgical units, the best is the one that produced less than a year appendectomy (removal of the inflamed appendix). Because the primary diagnosis in these offices was not sufficiently qualified. No wonder I bring this example, because the greater the auction assigns chemical examination Burliuk, the lower its expertise in the field of creativity Burliuk.

And that was what hurt me.
Dear Lisa. Do not argue, please take an active part in the forum in a different light. Yet go back to the pictures in the beginning of the topic and carefully, coolly compare and analyze all vyshenapisannogo.

Happy New Year!

PS. On the photo - a piece of work dealing with the Lotto. If you want, later will set pieces with the books of paintings devoted to Mayakovsky, Dante, Vermeer, even Stalin and many others.

[яков]

Сообщение от OlegTsi

in the late 40's, early 50's his work (simple, not a masterpiece) sold from 50 to 150 dollars. For example, in the late 40's for rent 3 bedroom apartment in lower Manhattan (the center of New York) cost 55 dollar a month. Custom portraits were more expensive. In the 60 years at ACA Gallery has sold for 900 dollars and rent the same apartment was no more than $ 150.

I've stumbled across on the cost of Burlyuk in 1906.
The photos show''the Company''Kharkov artists to whom it might be interesting.