Auction Oct. 25, 2008, Mr. Triumph of Socialist Realism "

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Eugene

In the beginning was "Stalin's court" over the picture and VP Sysoev in the best traditions of the Soviet era, I do not know, not seen, but the "blame" ...

This is where did you saw this? Was discussed.
You now, I am reminded of the hero Roninson of the feature film "Berigis car ..." in the courtroom: "And you do not know and do not say!"

[Евгений]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

Or there is no risk? "Here you are personally think? There? No?

The risk is ..

Сообщение от LCR

does not prevent me identify counterfeit work Roginsky,

Dear Liana, this is not Roginskii (where you worldwide recognition expert). If there were discussing now Roginskaya Your word would be the last .
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[sss]

Eugene: that I do not veritsya that in his collection "a dubious picture of" just lying 50 let.Byli to his doubts, he would have them figured out here at stake is his reputation and the respect of colleagues (and this too must not forget).

Reputation Sysoeva VP in this situation is not under threat. The cross is placed not on his reputation, and the painting "The fleeing girl.
If she was lying in his 50 years, with doubts, he figured out not to include a picture in the 1989 edition, which is replete with sketches and even a scratch pad pocherkushkami, but a picture of it, staying in a meeting with the originator.
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Eugene: could be dealt with in detail view of the expert council website?
If it is again at the level of "trains" it is not serious.

It seems to me just yet at the level of "trains" - this is the most serious (in this case).
It turns out that the artist first painted, not noticing the "trains", prescribed, not noticing the "trains" and signed by all of these "Railway composition", casting doubt now his reputation.

P.S. Expert opinion is also done at the level of "trains".

[LCR]

Сообщение от Eugene

  Dear Liana, this is not Roginskii (where you worldwide recognition expert), is a picture of AA Deineki and VP Sysoev I trust more (You must извените).

This is your sacred right, Eugene, nobody in the world can you trust the lord forbid Sysoev.

Nevertheless, I want to note that in order to determine the authenticity of the artist's paintings, there is no absolute necessity to be his wife.

On the other hand, to determine the authenticity of the paintings of the artist, not enough to be his wife (see the excellent text sss).

I am against over-specialization, and so if you do not mind, will continue in the future to give their opinion - when it is I have - about the artists, is married to whom I was not

[Allena]

Сообщение от LCR

I'm about Maciej. Here, I beg to love and to bestow:

 

Сообщение от LCR

will continue in the future to give their opinion - when it is I have - about the artists, is married to whom I was not

Bravo, Liana!

[qwerty]

I think it's time to end the discussion. The picture is clear to all, except one. Let's leave this one alone. The situation is becoming as absurd as the title of this auction.

[Самвел]

Personally, I liked the picture, ediestvennoe that disturbs me is its freshness, but otherwise I have no claim to it, although I also discussed with the screen component of the well, and my opinion is not so important.

[Allena]

Сообщение от Samvel

I also discussed with the screen component of the well

When a patient comes to the doctor - coughing, sneezing, and two scarves in each hand - that the doctor, even without measuring the temperature and listening to the lungs, there is reason to doubt is that the patient is healthy. Impossible, without seeing, an accurate diagnosis - may be ill, or maybe black pepper'd anaesthetized himself ... But the doubts come in health doctor has every right.
Here is the same situation.
There is reason to doubt the authenticity? Yes.
There is reason to doubt the advisability of investing? Yes.
There is reason to doubt the credibility of the expert opinion? Yes
Serious whether expressed arguments, reinforcing doubts? Yes. In particular, the lack of pictures in the book Sysoev in 1989, as indicated by sss, - this is already a fact. qwerty and sss (and not only they) put forward their arguments.
And that's it, Eugene, that we are not in court, where the benefit of doubt of the defendant.
At this stage, all the arguments made, no other information about the picture Sovkom not yet laid.
If you take to minimize, then the summary: at least "is doubtful. That's what this expert advice site signaled a red indicator.
Human qwerty: talk more about.

And bring the truth - a holy thing!

[Евгений]

Сообщение от Allena

At this stage, all the arguments made, no other information about the picture Sovkom not yet laid.

You're right discussion on this topic should stop (I have already offered twice). No sense, information on the painting malo.Lichno I do komm.ne will, I'll try to contact the VP Sysoev (to clarify some points on This picture, for myself)

[SergeiSK]

Auction Results:
• Results of the auction - October 25, 2008
Sold 150 lots of 218. Unsold lots: 2,5,16,21,26,30,31,34,37,38,39,41,42,43,56,72,73,
74,76,80,89,97,99,106,113,124,127,128,138,145,146,
149,161,169,170,172,174,179,180,182,183,186,187,
188,189,191,192,193,194,195,196,197,198,199,201,
202,203,205,206,207,208,209,210,211,212,213,214,21 7.
Proposals to purchase you can make up to 26 October.

Almost all the top lots sold, than with shovels and congratulations!