"Black Square" by Malevich: who feels that, looking at this picture

[artist]

Cyril Syzranskiy), in Offtopic: but something has changed?))) And what is so interesting in these three papers (except for "bond", which is ...)?
"Flower Girl" - is "behind" that is difficult to invent (

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out of him not only grown ...

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... And such work is "Flower Girl", shown above)))
 

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he has changed all surrounding space, grew out of it all we know of industrial design of XX century, modern architecture

Well this is you too much too ... And as for the original "antitheist icon agree.
But it later.
And why do not we place the starting point whole new on the Allais? It's conditional. And he - a pioneer. The motive is not important, important subject.
Maybe (we do not ever find out) he had begun with the COP?

[kr555]

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... And such work is "Flower Girl", shown above )))

There is, well, it is already "20 years later, times have changed, an artist, too, along with many other once rebellious ... Picasso at about the same time drawing hideous inflatable women, running on the beach, Rodchenko - chic clowns, Tatlin - bouquets ... Flower he did dated 1903, as if repeating his early student work (no idea whether it existed in reality), and the reasons for its creation were not clear to me personally. By the black square is in any case has nothing to do. The squares of their role in his works played and gone, I do not sense it as a bother.

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Well this is you too much too ... And as for the original "antitheist icon agree.
But it later.
And why do not we place the starting point whole new on the Allais? It's conditional. And he - a pioneer. The motive is not important, important subject.
Maybe (we do not ever find out) he had begun with the COP?

Yes, simply because communication with the black square immediately subsequent to his aesthetic response are obvious. This is a revolution in art is not hypothetical, but quite real. But the existence of such rights as Allais had been known unit negros in the cave is not a manifesto, and humor.
And by the way between them is the crucial difference - in pictures Allais no geometry. Generally no. A square of Malevich its geometric importantly its blackness.

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[SAH]

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This is a revolution in art is not hypothetical, but quite real.

Absolutely just see.

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black square is a graphic symbol of a new aesthetic, its icon and the logo, he changed all the surrounding space, it grew out of the entire known industrial design of the XX century, modern architecture, but what of it not only increased ...

It is also obvious, is only just to see.

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What a lie. Take away tsenik and how many of the existents would realize that they face
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a brilliant compilation of situations limit searches - existential, artistic, mystic
and not just a piece of painted plywood?
Well, honestly?)

If you honestly do not see the conflict between a piece of painted plywood and brilliant generalization ....

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A "dokvadratnoe" art "to the bottom" does not matter, living and sold worldwide.

So like and "square" in height, when selling is for sale. So what you own? Poor is a square? Nobody right?

[artist]

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It is interesting to them, for me, something that the author of them returned to figurative painting in the 20-30-ies. and even the old stuff copied

And why suddenly? Something to know and understand what we do not want to understand "we"?

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to immediately subsequent to his aesthetic response are obvious

Why replace the real historical facts? "Revolution" (transformation) and KGB were long - no more than a mark on its way. Marriage is already thought "close" ...

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If you honestly do not see a conflict between a piece of painted plywood and a brilliant synthesis ....

You're in luck: I have not yet obtained (But I will try to "squeeze out a slave" © and learn to see, for example, in the outer gray Krasnopevtsev reflection of the Universal Unconscious ... Well, to be trained as to be honest ... I confess this (paint ))

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So what you own? Poor is a square? Nobody right?

I, in fact, not about this, I even recognized the importance and nothing in opposition. I just wrote that he did not think the COP great (written with that "feel "...). To take offense at me for it - is ridiculous. They called it "ugly" in a good, true, company)))) Can this be limited. And to write funny things about the discreteness of the world is not worth it. By the way, as well as conduct in the contemporary art border between humor and surezom ") has not been born yet capable of this chelovechische ...

And, if a bit more serious, it did not like the bulk of modern art history texts (most likely, is it just me, of course). And not like the fact that art historians began to examine their texts as self-sufficient artistic object is not associated with the world.
They have become "artists of the words "....
Therefore, words such as: "graphic symbol of a new aesthetic ... her icon ...,... changed all the surrounding space, it grew out of all known ... we design something out of it ... just not grown ...", "a brilliant synthesis of situations limit searches ..." makes me sad .. .

[kr555]

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But why so suddenly? Something to know and understand what we do not want to understand "we"?

There were quite simple explanation. Very long, I can not vouch for the truth. One of them - a lot of his works remained in Germany, and when he came back, preparing a solo exhibition, then made a copy from memory, to complete the flashbacks. Other - repeating their old things for students to demonstrate by example the history of the birth of a genius artist. I got into, like, have already started to write original figurative things, not repetitive. I think all this is close enough to the truth, and some sverhsmysla in the return to figurative art was not.

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Why replace real historical facts? "Revolution" (transformation) was long and KGB - no more than a mark on its way. Marriage is already thought "close "...

That's absolutely, I do not agree. The marriage was garrulous, he could not reach the absolute. All Western modernists were essentially bourgeois artists, and any of their work was done in order to be sold first, and the revolution in the background, optional. They are a graduated hooligans, even until it is someone willing to buy. But such rudeness - to create works that are precisely nobody will buy, which hurt the eyes and brain explode, proletarian and deliberately clumsy - only our Russian hooligans could afford. In France, the black box would create when it might have been sold. And Mondrian came to his minimalist when it became commercially demand. Do not revolutionaries, they all ...

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And, if a bit more serious, it did not like the bulk of modern art history texts (most likely, is it just me, of course). And not like the fact that art historians began to examine their texts as self-sufficient artistic object is not associated with the world.
They have become "artists of the words "....
Therefore, words such as: "graphic symbol of a new aesthetic ..., its icon ...,... changed all the surrounding area, it grew out of all known ... we design something out of it ... just not grown ...", "a brilliant synthesis of situations limit searches ..." makes me sad .. .

You overestimate me "I went to art criticism, absolutely nothing to do I have, just a hastily formulated their own understanding of what happened, even the truth does not pretend. But it seems to me obvious, I do not understand how you can not see the direct logical chains. The same "Tale of two squares", about which he wrote a little earlier - Marriage to that so far not picked up, he remained in the painting. If you have not seen - in the relatively well as the scans found here:
http://snooty-sculptor.livejournal.com/117103.html
The original is much more impressive, is absolute perfection, all modern graphic design in this book came out. And Bauhaus without the black square would be completely different.
Well, it seems I repeat, so that giving up

[SAH]

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take offense for it to me - ridiculous.

artist, kind of like communicated we are.

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funny things to write about the discreteness of the world should not have.

Maybe it is not worth anything to anyone like to write more so that:

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I do not like the bulk of modern art history texts (most likely, is it just me, of course). And not like the fact that art historians began to examine their texts as self-sufficient artistic object is not associated with the world.
They have become "artists of the words "....
So words like: "graphic symbol of a new aesthetics ... her icon ... ... changed all the surrounding space, it grew from the entire known ... design ... what of it not only increased ... , "" a brilliant synthesis of situations limit searches ... " make me sad ...

Now that you are not sad to I think everyone is entitled to write about, no?

[artist]

ABSOLUTELY!)

[SAH]

[artist]

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Marriage to that so far not picked up, he stayed in the painting

Excuse me, but he to it and not creeping. This is a completely different point of application. Why do they compare?
Painting was trying to deal with Malevich. About him we talked. There marriage is better ..
Sorry, but an art critic I do not consider), Just said "corrupting" influence )))))).
In my opinion, to talk about the fine in the categories of verbal hallucinations - it unprofitable and misleading from the point. And generalization: All, All ... It does not happen. Not Darwinism.
And then I said, what he said. If an amendment to your point of view was this: KSM created the Cheka, in an unconscious state (in contrast to Western "osoznantsev and cynics))) and did not realize what he did. I am aware, and he - no. In this paradox, but that's true) And the fact that he was great, he knew without the Cheka. Just thought. Was the era of manifestos. And by the way, the glory of the author of the square was not enough. He wanted to prove that he can ... This and flower.
Yes, God is with him. I answered the question topic in my first post.)
Misc: talk ...)))