On the strange influence on the art

[mezon]

Сообщение от SAH

And not for that we are gathered here

I am surprised with what accuracy there is a topic of conversation on the strange influence on the art "- the atom, is now a language ...
    On the first page mentions painting "Atom" painted by the artist Burliuk. Using the "language" of the artist Burliuk gave his idea of the structure of the atom. He used the same "language" that enjoyed by other artists - paint. The human eye sees light in the range from red to purple. In the micro-atoms, the electrons are invisible and only the interaction between them, they emit energy, light, which is a measure of their interaction. but it is not their property. Draw an atom could only order that would then show the picture of the people and say - this is because the atom does not look. So how could we learn about his property to be invisible. Atom, the particles of the microcosm has no habitual svoistv our perception and to describe their behavior using the analogy of our world, which transmit these properties are very, very roughly. Most completely does math - "Mathematics - the science of smart operations performed by a specially developed rules on specially invented concepts. It is clear that a particularly important role is given to inventing new concepts.The stock of interesting theorems in mathematics is rapidly exhausting itself would be if they had to be formulated only with the help of the concepts contained in the axioms. Yu P. Wigner, "Therefore, to understand the invisible world gives us the fullest possible language of mathematics. How this relates to art? Where ends the visible light starts unfamiliar to our eyes the world, and where the world ends with the usual begin analogy and scope of new invented concepts.
Here ends the art of transmission of light sensations and art begins transmission of the sensation of color. This is a world of new concepts in art is akin to problems of mathematics. It is the language of art is created anew. If we talk about the similarities with mathematics, the art of Malevich, Suprematism it can be compared with the geometry of Euclid. Dali himself likened to a particle and a wave simultaneously. Abstract - This primeval chaos. One thing is clear: non-classical language of science and art - is an open, dynamic, strange logic depends directly on the language, allowing an element of unpredictability, chance, variance, improvisation games. In nature there are no boundaries between things, everything is interconnected. There should be no borders between people in the perception of the world: physicist and a poet must communicate in one language - the language of nature.

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Language - is a historically established system of acoustic, lexical and grammatical means of objectifying the work of thinking and are an instrument of communication, exchange of ideas and mutual understanding of people in society. Language - it is also any system of signs (sounds, signals), relaying information. This concept relates Ozhegov language of animals, the language of bees, body language, the language of road signs, a programming language, mathematical language, the language of cinema, etc.
Language is one of a large set of various sign systems that people use for communication, conveying messages about certain situations in the world, about their thoughts, feelings, experiences, evaluations, plans, objectives, intentions, sharing information with their interlocutors on the results cognitive activity. The word communication goes back to lat. communico (make common, share). Signs that comprise the message, act as carriers of certain semantic content (values). It is thanks to them it is possible to encode the transmitted information in the message and implementation of communicative acts.
The signs would replace both items to which they refer and which they call. This substitution in human life takes place quite often, so willy-nilly might get the impression that people live not only and not so much in the world of things, but in the world of signs.
language is aimed at reality and at the world of images, which builds up between reality and man, speaking as a set of knowledge, forming together a picture or model of the world. This picture of the world, localized in the mind, constantly updated and corrected, governs human behavior.

[SAH]

Сообщение от mezon

Language aims at reality and at the world of images, which builds up between reality and man, speaking as a set of knowledge, forming together a picture, or model, world. This picture of the world, localized in the mind, constantly updated and corrected, governs human behavior.

Language-still a tool

Сообщение от mezon

He used the same "language" that enjoyed by other artists - paint.

The language spoken word (ie paints paints a picture) but about the word we know: Ἐν ἀρχῇ ἦν ὁ λόγος καὶ ὁ λόγος ἦν πρòς τòν Θεόν. Καὶ Θεòς ἦν ὁ λόγος. In today's Russian translation, this line is:

      In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God. And from Wikipedia: In the beginning 'all' was the Word and the Word was with God, and 'It' It was God.

The first translation of this line of Slavic language translators implemented the Holy Scriptures Saints Constantine-Cyril the Philosopher and his brother Methodius, they translated the Greek concept of the word concept Logos. Further, under the Logos implies the law of development, and some higher power, ruling the world. Later, in the writings of early Christian thinkers, he was identified with the Logos of the Son of God, Jesus Christ, "because the Logos, the Word of God a sinner saved the world"

"Logos", usually translated as "word" is actually meant by the thinking process [citation needed], results of which are couched in the language. Correct total cost would translate the "Logos" as "intelligence", or "reason".

The concept of the divine Logos back to the ancient Greek philosopher Plato's school. And to complete the "picture" such nebezizvestnaya phrase: "From the words be justified and by your words to condemn"

[mezon]

Do not undertake to discuss the sacred texts. However, with regard to our conversation, with a certain degree of conditionality, what you said is it possible to understand the following?:
   Painting - a word, a reflection of the artist. Working on a painting the artist creates himself. Picture - an artist.
    How do you agree with this interpretation of the artist?

[SAH]

Сообщение от mezon

The picture - a word, a reflection of the artist. Working on a painting the artist creates himself. Picture - an artist.
How do you agree with this interpretation of the artist?

Agree, painting (mostly) thin the fruit of life. word-which, he said. I see so.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Amateur

I have long and so far unsuccessfully been looking for a reproduction of this painting and would be very grateful to those who have laid it on the forum.

This picture?
No, probably ...

[Amateur]

No, Kirill, is not it. That was a purple-black color scheme, the center was clear to see the nucleus, and around him, in part, his touching (which the atoms does not happen) - some kind of radial and azimuthal layered substance, with layers from each other separated by black lines with some with white piping. So, as I remember.

[K-Maler]

Сообщение от mezon

template data than we are the creators themselves.

Dear mezon, what you mean by template "data over"?

[SAH]

Сообщение от K-Maler

Dear mezon,

K-Maler, Unfortunately long nebylo heard at forum
mezon