How to create and develop the infrastructure of art?

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That's exactly what

Сообщение от Cyril Syzran

... just fiction.

and

Сообщение от Cyril Syzran

... a little journalism and memoirs

Cyril, it's too long and off topic , if all go . Feel the need to do - do all excavated, no, and there is no sense to paint something.

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Сообщение от artcol; 2052451"

Feel the need to do

Stop!
Wait a minute .
What to do ?
You mean their " secret knowledge "?
So I set your source of wisdom , and so I know - Pelevin and the musical comedy " Chapiteau show ."
Movies that I was not looking, of course, but I read Pelevin's half- page and realized - had better re-read Leskov, Bunin , or in one hundred and first time on this than i @ @ ext wasting the time of his single life - I'm sorry, reading this level has long been outgrown and not an office manager , I ... <! - ~ 1 ~ ->
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You Learn Galkovskii I still advise to read. <! - ~ 5 ~ ->

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Сообщение от artcol; 2052451"

... it is too long and off topic, if you all go .

You go and do not have and did not overpower you so.
You gave an example of things from self-publishing , and then you podhihikivaete over him for his ignorance , apparently do not understand it - at least to know Pepper will not find yourself in an awkward situation when talking to other people.

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran

Stop!
Wait a minute .
What to do ?
You mean their " secret knowledge "?
So I set your source of wisdom , and so I know - Pelevin and the musical comedy " Chapiteau show ."
Movies that I was not looking, of course, but I read Pelevin's half- page and realized - had better re-read Leskov, Bunin , or in one hundred and first time on this than i @ @ ext wasting the time of his single life - I'm sorry, reading this level has long been outgrown and not an office manager , I ... <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

And what Pelevin ? The leading contemporary Russian writer <! - ~ 5 ~ -> Although I was already hardly undertake to read.

But I'm not talking about razvlekalovo . You do not know what caused the birth of the phrase Andropov ?

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Сообщение от artcol; 2052491"

You do not know what caused the birth of the phrase Andropov ?

The crisis in the USSR, what else .
Situation in which a substituted propaganda information, and "public opinion" profane power , he recognized obscene and harmful , and at some of the CPSU Central Committee plenum , and said from the rostrum of this phrase, which, incidentally , later repeated several times Gorbachev.

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran

Situation in which information is substituted for propaganda

Yes it is.
With one important focus.
KGB-it had to have this information, and possessed.
So that by "we" he meant the KGB.
(IMHO, of course, Andropov himself to me about it is not reported).

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Сообщение от artcol; 2052401"

Cyril did not agree with the cult has a comprehensive and reduces it to the realm of art.

This is from what my words, you did such a strange conclusion?
Not out of it?

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Сообщение от Kirill Syzran; 2048291"

We need to develop culture in general.

Сообщение от Kirill Syzran; 2050961"

I'm just worried about the lack of a common culture, and remove the common people (PC) with a wall carpets, no longer sit with a vodka or a beer in front of TV, wants a better (higher quality) live, go to another job ( before raising the professional level, so at least reading and attending courses spetsliteraturu profperepodgotovki) - and then there is a desire to read and fiction, will be a taste for good clothes, cure teeth, go to the theater, an exhibition, a museum, and there , you see, and buy a PC and freed from the carpet wall landscape or still life.

Сообщение от Kirill Syzran; 2051291"

Without addressing the issue of culture (buying a new material for sewing coat), in my opinion, "proposed solutions" will be some short-term solution of issues on a "day we would stand so survive the night" to change the location of the galleries and human perturbations.

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran

This is from what my words, you did such a strange conclusion ?
Not out of it?

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Hence:

COP : We need to develop culture in general .

artcol: This is a very blurry. The culture of consumption of spirits ? Sex ? Driving a /m ? What?

COP : " culture of consumption of hard liquor " - a Soviet newspaper strains , as, indeed, "driving a /m " - possovetsky .
Journalists have the word "culture " for the eye candy and even used to raise the debate a step further .
"Proper use of spirits ," " correct driving a /m " - it would be more appropriate , but duller .

Then all you are shifted to the metaphor of the entrance <! - ~ 9 ~ ->

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Сообщение от artcol; 2052551"

KGB and then had to have this information, and it possessed .

No, I did not have .
The KGB was the same rotten sovdepovskoy sharashka like all the scoop in the then - Soviet Union.
Dull , grayish , half-educated (most of the studies were of Marxism -Leninism, dialectical materialism and Istpart ), inconspicuous little people - that they might know ?
External Service transported cases of money - by African tribal leaders ( leaders of national liberation movements ), and the heads of foreign communist parties , and the internal - watching the dissidents, collecting reports of secret agents (neighbors denounced their neighbors - who wore what , who is sleeping with whom , etc . etc.) so deadened the BBC, C da Voice of America.
That's their whole job.
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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran

No, I did not have .
The KGB was the same rotten sovdepovskoy sharashka like all the scoop in the then - Soviet Union.
Dull , grayish , half-educated (most of the studies were of Marxism -Leninism, dialectical materialism and Istpart ), inconspicuous little people - that they might know ?
External Service transported cases of money - by African tribal leaders ( the so-called . Leaders of national liberation movements <! - ~ 1 ~ ->) and the heads of foreign communist parties , and the internal - watching the dissidents, collecting reports of secret agents (neighbors to the denounced neighbors - who wore what , who is sleeping with whom , etc.) so deadened the BBC, C da Voice of America.
That's their whole job.
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I see. The conversation ended , I propose to change the subject , or rather back to the original <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

Eugene has posted an interesting news http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showthread.php?t=155891

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Сообщение от iside; 2051811"

I watched the transfer of a harrowing , which interviewed various Italian cultural figures , a selection of characters that is was a great All were primarily interested enthusiasts ( about the same warehouse, and a sister Prokhorov - Irina ) , but not those who sit in the workplace , getting paid and then could not care less . But the conclusion was very tragic - no art , no culture can not be the development of society can not progress, the evolution is impossible . That art is a special matter, which gives a special boost , or awakens in the minds and hearts , without which we would have remained primitive creatures .

 As Irina Prokhorova , I do not know what she has ( I mean the audience ), for me it is the same as an empty drum, like his brother Prokhorov. With regard to the latter part of the message , but now I changed the word art and culture on the word substitute.