VM Mariupol, "counselors", 1950

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Originally Posted by IrinaC

Paris expensive city, before visiting these museums have somewhere to stay, what you eat, for the plane ticket to pay. You know, the salary of a scientist is not a rubber
as a sezzhu and in Paris, retired.

Dear Irina!
And why you do not want to return to Russia of your youth? What you find this cultured Montreal? Everything is intact, even the genotype did not change. Yes, a monthly salary of a scientist enough to hike the whole family to the Bolshoi Theater, though it is not clear on that then lived, oh yes it is really important. So come back, waiting with impatience.

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Tana, you have to com-dial-Oklahoma City, Omaha (the main town in Nebraska, where Warren Buffett lives, by the way, the richest American), Denver (Kansas), Houston, San Antonio, El - Paso, Dallas (Texas) and look at how much you are wrong.
At a very, very much ...

[LCR]

Originally Posted by Tana

LCR, probably about Chicago is not a very good example, but the Americans themselves are somehow not spoken much about it, but, as in the rest, about the American West, I think I right, just visited there, what is called "Feel the difference"!

Tanya, you must understand one thing: first, already with 10-20-ies. Twentieth century Americans have become major buyers of European art, and the old and new, and secondly, each collector is trying to ensure that its collection of decent future (there are also various tax tricks that contribute to this, but it's not the point).
People with virtually unlimited funds (Salomon Guggenheim, Frick) built a museum, others passed on his collection to major museums - Washington National Gallery, MoMA, the Met, and so on.
But such museums are only interested in collections made up entirely of masterpieces. Assembly is a bit easier, they do not accept, or may take, but guarantee weighing no more than 10-15%, the rest will be stored in the vaults.
Not all collectors are taking such conditions (I told the story of Dodge's negotiations with the Guggenheim, which ended in nothing), they begin to look for a place easier. A good example, in my opinion, can serve as a collection of the University Ratger - Dodge collection is also located there, but now it is not about her, but about meeting Zimmerly. University this rasprolozhen literally in an open field near the city of New Brunswick in New Jersey, small-industrial and one of the most non-prestigious, about a half hour drive from New York.
So, when the French were preparing an exhibition Honore Daumier, Ratger gave her no more than 20 items.
That is, I want to say that the wealth of American museum collections is difficult to imagine.

It seems to me, do not be a revolution in Russia would be the same, because the Russian collectors have also been very active, alas, was not ...

[Tana]

but being back here at once, not to return, start a conversation with what is available art in our country than abroad, what you are evil, here are my positions just "deaf ears" were allowed in, only one in which I was wrong about Chicago, this one once commented.
well where we do not, as a country of our youth has not come back as one can not "fall back into the same river."
You know, and I came out ahead of the Komsomol and I meeting-meeting and redundant ideologichnost did not like, but it was good and, well, what did you just see a black circle??
Really, really, even childhood was so heavy, but now that the kids live better with the freedom and democracy, and unemployed parents, though: say-create-nehochu-free in one word!

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Originally Posted by Cyril Syzransky

Tana, you have to com-dial-Oklahoma City, Omaha (the main town in Nebraska, where Warren Buffett lives, by the way, the richest American), Denver (Kansas), Houston, San Antonio, El Paso, Dallas (Texas) and look at how much you are wrong.
At a very, very much ...

Here in Oklahoma City and I just was really, not virtually.

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Tana, you have a little laugh ... but it is not scary.
Where do you live in what city? I understand, somewhere in the Ukraine? Or something got it wrong?
Here and compare their city to Oklahoma City, compare and tell us about the benefits of your home town.

[Tana]

No, let's not take certain point, I walked through the Regional Museum of Ukraine (I find it hard to talk about Russia), in each of the museum at least a couple of pictures zaluzhivayut attention, not to mention architecture, and so is there a concentration of masterpieces in America as in Europe or us? (of course, is why Americans are buying and perhaps in the future we will be less than masterpieces, because our oligarchs are not mature enough to sponsor museums in America)

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Originally Posted by Cyril Syzransky

Tana, you have a little laugh ... but it is not scary.
Where do you live in what city? I understand, somewhere in the Ukraine? Or something got it wrong?
Here and compare their city to Oklahoma City, compare and tell us about the benefits of your home town.

Kirill, I think Odessa is not even close to compare with Oklahoma City, or museums, or architecture.
very brief history of Odessa are here:
http://www.misto.odessa.ua/index.php?u=gorod/istoriya
tomorrow I can lose a little more, if you're interested, and still come and look it up yourself (closer than Oklahoma and are to be cultured), you will not regret, many Russians began to come in recent years.

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Tana, in Odessa, a wonderful collection. Who thank for these?
But generally you can still do this.
Pick up a lavender 5 first names, the first row of their favorite artists. Course West. And look where they are stored most hit things very top.

[Tana]

Kirill, it would be surprising if most of the best Western artists, was kept from us, of course there are more in Europe, but we have much to be proud of! (Odessa was the 3rd largest city in Russia Empire, after St. Peterbugra and Moscow):
http://museum.odessa.net/fineartsmuseum/russian/
  No, I would in America did not want to live, I did not like it, New York, too, did not like (not for the life of it), it weighs too much, like the more "quiet" town.
You know, very surprised when she learned that a couple of years ago, the Odessa Art Museum received a bequest of Velokobritanii paintings by Aivazovsky (they bequeathed Odessa immigrants collector, left almost immediately after the revolution of Odessa).
Yes, there are still people who are not so bad in our country.

- Kirill, you are very interesting to communicate, but too late, my husband does not understand that you can about the art at a time to talk ....

[SAH]

Originally Posted by Tana

what you are all evil,

Not bad at all

Originally Posted by Tana

Well, you just see a black circle ????

Illusion ended (probably vozrostnoe)

Originally Posted by Tana

really even childhood was so heavy, but now that the kids live better with the freedom and democracy, and unemployed parents, though: say-create-nehochu-free in one word!

I think that the freedom of better budet.A parents if they are unemployed should try and work myself nayti.Rabota now have and the salary attached to it is not something that ranshe.Tolko not all want to work, and everything about the old days, remember.

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Originally Posted by SAH

I think that freedom is better.

But Dmitry Medvedev said even shorter: "Freedom - better than unfreedom."