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Результаты опроса: Кто, по Вашему мнению, настоящий автор картины «Вид Кремля»?
И. С. Глазунов 25 69.44%
другой художник 4 11.11%
скорее Глазунов, чем другой художник 5 13.89%
скорее другой художник, чем Глазунов 2 5.56%
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Старый 18.05.2010, 09:39 Язык оригинала: Русский       #101
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can take a picture and ask for photos" confirm "?
Let heiress takes a picture in his hands, take pictures of it along with the picture, then she would write on the back of photographs with his hand authentication.
The same evidence can be identically duplicated on the back of the painting.



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Старый 18.05.2010, 11:12 Язык оригинала: Русский       #102
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Thank you all!
With list is also a great idea. Must recommend the heiress of the artist to make such a list, but it is in a hopeless confusion, does not know how and where to look for other work, does not know where to start.



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Старый 18.05.2010, 22:06 Язык оригинала: Русский       #103
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Wladzislaw, sorry for the persistence, could you point to those of Chagall's works from the collection of the State Tretyakov Gallery that you consider false. Previously grateful for the invaluable information.
Please contact in writing to the Committee Chagall. I think they'll tell you.

Comité Marc Chagall
35, Quai de l'Horloge
Paris 75001
FR
Tél: 00 33 1 40 51 74 70
Fax: 00 33 1 40 51 74 71



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Старый 19.05.2010, 14:48 Язык оригинала: Русский       #104
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Thank you all!
With list is also a great idea. Must recommend the heiress of the artist to make such a list, but it is in a hopeless confusion, did not know where and how to look for other work, does not know where to start.
In this case, advise her to do it more competently and: indicate the year of creation, size (first digit vertical) and the technique, the name, if any. If no name, do not invent themselves.
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Старый 31.01.2015, 16:45 Язык оригинала: Русский       #105
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По умолчанию sketch Kabakov in notebooks Grobman

Plot: in the invitation to the presentation of a special edition of Mikhail Grobman "textile workers. Guest notebook Mikhail Grobman. 1964-1971" (a wonderful project, then tell) printed sketch Ilya Kabakov - scan with the tetrad sheet. And sent by mail.
Then came e-mail from the Emilia Kabakova with unambiguous conclusion: "It is fake...someone signed instead of Elijah. It's not his picture and not his signature. Emilia and Ilya Kabakov".

In General, a clear misunderstanding of what may be fake Kabakov in notebooks Grobman 1966? Yes, and next with a quick portrait Kabakov hand of Vladimir Andreenkov on the next page. Why?

Fortunately quickly figured out came a letter of apology in the spirit "are not very familiar with old pictures of Elijah".

All happily settled, and PR turned out excellent.
The border was closed. But mistakes do happen. Conclusion: the authors ' opinion is not a sentence.

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Please, do note that this is not Kabakov''s drawing.
This is a fake.
Please,take it out from the invitation.
Sorry ,but someone made a mistake and someone signed it for Ilya.
Not his drawing and not his signature.

Emilia and Ilya Kabakov

From: emilia kabakov <emiliakabakov@hotmail.com>
Date: Wednesday, January 28, 2015
Subject: FW:
To: MICHAIL GROBMAN <grobman1@netvision.net.il>
here i found the email.
You have to understand that i don't know Ilya''s old drawings so well.
If he tells he didn't do it,i have to make sure its not coming up for sale anywhere.
We do have a situation with fakes,and you, Misha do understand this better then many other people.
You are a collector.
Ilya only see the drawing and he knew that he never made such drawing as a separate one.
Neither him or I pay attention that this is from your guest book.
Sorry.
Emilia
From: emiliakabakov@hotmail.com
To: direct@ncca.ru
Subject:
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2015 23:22:17 +0000

Dear Misha
How are you? How is everything going on with the museum?
About sending the email about Ilya;s drawing.
Ilya didn't know that this drawing is from the guest book. He was thinking its a separate drawing.
So, obviously he did it as a sketch for Grobman guest book.
Sorry.
Emilia
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Старый 18.09.2017, 22:58 Язык оригинала: Русский       #106
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По умолчанию Mark Grotjan did not recognize his picture from the auction Phillips

Auction house Phillips withdrew the forthcoming auction of contemporary art the picture seems to be grotyana after himself mark Grotjahn in your Instagram refused to recognize her as his

Work, taken by the auction house Phillips auction after mark Grotjan not recognized it
Work with the caption "10 MG" should appear under the number 168 at Phillips auction "New today" on September 19. This thing is untitled, painted in oil on photo paper, was estimated at $20 000 to $30 000. Overall, the picture matches the style of the artist. However, the alleged author was of a different opinion.
In his Instagram 49-летний the artist posted a screenshot from the website of Phillips to the work with the caption: "Hey, Phillips... I'm not sure that I wrote it. In any case, it's awful."
Was it an official statement of Grotiana or perhaps a conceptual joke of the artist, but the post sparked hundreds of responses from followers and came to the attention of the auction house. In the end, Phillips took the job from bidding to ascertain all the circumstances. "We entered into negotiations with the artist for authentication works" — commented the representative of the auction house.
Works grotyana could be worth millions at public auction. The record was set in may this year, when the work is "untitled", 2011, sold for $16.8 million at Christie's auction. In private transactions the price is even higher. According to collector David Geffen, he missed one of the best works grotyana, which eventually was sold to a competitor in a private transaction for $22 million.
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Actually-то work similar to grechanovsky. Was he such a cycle.
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Старый 08.11.2017, 15:32 Язык оригинала: Русский       #107
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По умолчанию Gorokhovskaya is not Gorokhovsky

Brief: VLADEY was removed from the auction picture of living of the sixties Evgeny Gorokhovsky, as it was a notarized statement by the artist that the author – he is not (fake). Gallery owner Sergey Popov as a connoisseur of the artist's work is also sure that the fake. At the same time the organizers of the exhibitions (Vitaly Kopachev) and known collectors (Yuri Gurov – owner, Alexander Mironov) believe that picture is real.

The situation is a stalemate. True to all three statements:

1. Yes, the modern living artists too fake.
2. Yes, sometimes artists, for various reasons, refuse authorship of his works.
3. Yes, if the artist issued a written repudiation to sell thing on the market is impossible. And it does not matter genuine or not.


Here, he writes gallery pop/off/art
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the Gallery pop/off/art informs that in Moscow revealed a case of the fake paintings of Eugene Gorokhovsky, the artist, whom the gallery represents in 2004. Unknown artist was shown at the pre-auction exhibition of the auction Vladey (lot 73 forthcoming auctions) as the works of Eugene Gorokhovsky "Birth clouds". The artist denied authorship, stressing that he never created works with a similar title. Please note that forged the author's signature on front and reverse side of the picture.

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Старый 17.11.2017, 18:20 Язык оригинала: Русский       #108
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on the one hand everything! ( artists, gallerists, dealers) want civilized art market. On the other hand, I, as the buyer should wipe, if the artist ( or his / her account on FB) will decide to stop working.
Stalemate. If there is paper (and it's also prepared in definitive form) with the repudiation of the commercial fate of a work ends or is interrupted for a long time. You can argue about the authenticity, to analyze dignity-недостатки, to take into account the good reputation of a collector (which to me is extremely important), but you can't sell. No organization will undertake. At least equal to the paper is the refutation. And that is unlikely. So arranged. Therefore, the auctions after appeals artists shoot don't hesitate to clarify with the customers nobody wants.
The situation (as is now becoming clear) @just - a disadvantage to everyone. Fortunately, the situation is quite rare.
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Старый 18.11.2017, 16:59 Язык оригинала: Русский       #109
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do you Think in 10 years, so the works of this author will buy?
I think that will be. A good artist
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Старый 20.11.2017, 14:12 Язык оригинала: Русский       #110
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the works of his father will still buy it, maybe, and his @- no.
You see. It is a characteristic example of another damage from these scandals and ambiguous situations. Their negative attitude to the act of the author people are starting to spread on his work. For example, if you did where-то ambiguous, and it means that pictures of him so yourself. Psychological trap. Like we saw many years ago and with Glazunov, by the way.
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