He died Lucien Freud

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Сообщение от Guriev, Igor

I'm just not clear what it is you it is not clear.

What is not clear to me I had already formulated in your message. Engage in dialogue with the same person, which in addition to the phrase "I was just not clear what it is you it is not clear" does not sign, I think it pointless.

Сообщение от Guriev, Igor

Of course, not demand.
Not least because it is not "position", and brilliant text, live speech, charming and intelligent.
As if thinking aloud.
I love the genre.

Guriev, Igor, that your text contains such contradictions, it loses all meaning. If, as you say, fabosch «muses" (with which I agree), that is, commits an act at the base, which is thinking, he theorizes. A theory consists of propositions. You see, without thinking of the provisions can not, even "as if thinking aloud." I do not know of such a genre in which "as if thinking aloud," but it does not reflect at all.

And then, if the text contains provisions (yet), which must be taken for granted that text. It is an opportunity to put questions to the text, refer it to the scientific (self Saboya of course, to the extent that we can talk about art criticism as a science). A clarification - it is a prerequisite for understanding the text (especially a claim to it to be at least thinking). So, if I put questions to the text fabosch but also sought clarification on some of his assertions, that by itself this fact speaks about? The fact that I want to start to understand that he wrote fabosch, and only then decide whether there is in this text, it is worthy of excellent epithets. "Brilliant," this "living speech" will be only when it appears the semantic clarity. And in this case it appears without explanation and clarification of the author.

"Brilliant" can only be called the text, which has sufficient clarity to his understanding, and not a "fascinating" collection of "smart" words. And if you, Guriev, Igor, consider this text is a brilliant (perfect), then you should not be difficult to explain his point in two or three sentences. Only the very essence!

Сообщение от Guriev, Igor

Yes, this is one of the best texts that I read here.
They are here quite a few thousands, of course.

I did not ask you to evaluate the text on the level of "like or dislike." I asked you about how you define the text, if you exclude the possibility of its refining and production of issues to him.

[fabosch]

Dear Tyutchev, I beg your pardon, did not immediately reply to your kind message.
I have a bad habit on the weekends to go to the country (oh, horror!) Without the Internet.

Сообщение от Tiutchev

P.S. I will be grateful if you answer my questions.
Hopefully, I arose such a number, you will not istolkuete contempt of your understanding of art by Lucian Freud.

Not at all, on the contrary, flattered by such a keen interest in my humble text, I think, not so deep as to cause just such a flurry of brilliant questions. In general, you just walked through the very weakest point of my text that characterizes not only the text itself, but also the analytical validity of your intelligence (and who would doubt ...). Well, as someone used to say of litgeroev, always a pleasure to talk with an intelligent man.
As regards the text, we would like to clarify that he had written me exactly how to think "with Klava in hand," that is impromptu (and here, again, rightly pointed out by Comrade. Guriev (by the way he so enthusiastic compliments ( text, not Comrade. Guriev), certainly does not deserve), its improvisational nature.) And not the last moment that determined the content of this text were cock-speech Comrade. Guriev and that cause, however, no less cock rebuke from members of the forum.
I had read his escapades, I thought that, perhaps, not so it is not right. Just seemed to me that he can not or will not accurately articulate the source of his position. On all these attacks by about an inability to draw is unlikely to react as seriously as it has demonstrated amiable fross. And it's not here because of the bar in relation to the deceased. Of course, hardly anyone can please the person's death (any, no matter what it was). And Comrade. Guriev and it is hardly pleased. He discussed his work (art), which are public domain, moreover, by including in order to be public domain and subject to public debate (and hence the conviction as well). What else to discuss in this topic? Just pictures to show. Always interesting, and, of course, but somehow it's not quite the level you should be proud of, agree. Just a comrade. Guriev and pionerskie habits, they should be "divide by 7," but also to extract from them the essence of the case, which usually is there.
So I tried to write the text, I thought, revealing a possible approach to creativity L. Freud. We agree with me that this approach is 100%? Even I can not answer unequivocally. Yes and no.
I'm writing all this, of course, not to shirk responsibility, no, no. For all his words would be happy to - otherwise they would not write. I just want to stress that not everything should be written by me in this topic applies to both my own truth in the last instance (Hier stehe ich und kann nicht anders, so it seems, if not falsified), I'm really thinking myself and invite you to that meter process, and others.
Then I'm in a quandary. On the one hand, I can answer almost all your questions, Mr Tyutchev, but I understand that this will have to spend a lot of time on the other hand, I'm not sure that all my answers will satisfy you. So I suggest another option. Perhaps in his text, I formulated a clear main idea, which is actually totally uncomplicated, though, of course, can be controversial. So now I try to describe it briefly. If this option does not satisfy you, then, as they say, "ready to meet", the answer to your questions successively (ready to answer all but the power - I do not know how it should be called and what it is, but it is obvious to me at some intuitive level, however, and wrote "some").
Now, in fact. It is clear that any work of art can not be fully understood without some context (for example, sometimes plays a role in understanding what nationality artist, well, etc., etc.). The issue in the ratio. "Black Square" without context is not a work of art, and "The Storm" by Giorgione is (though it has been written volumes about what is its meaning.) That is "black box" - a conceptualist work (so do a discount on my use of this term, I hope it is clear from the context, what is the point in this case it is). So, my thought is that to interpret the work of L. Freud significant role is played by two vnehudozhestvennyh circumstances. The first thing he does traditional realistic painting in the age of installations and projects, in an age of situational art, have invaded the life (that's what I call the archaic position). But its main feature, which, incidentally, underlines the Cantor in his article that he portrays his models naked, and, importantly, specifically naked (I think the word will be drawn here about right), from which follows the whole philosophy, is hung on his work. If we ignore these two stress vnehudozhestvennyh circumstances, what actually is? Well, painting and painting. That is, his art is also conceptually. Good or bad? I do not know. Not prepared to answer this question.
Cezanne, whom he compared, in this sense does not dependent on what represented. The meaning of the revolution was to Cezanne's "how" rather than "what".

Сообщение от artcol

fabosch, for some time (years 80), this approach even in the Soviet Easel has become almost mainstream. But then played back Kugachi - the demand was spoon-balalaika-love of country (national identity - the first stage of a long journey GGG). Freud And - yes, very consistently reached the end.
And someone would Kugacha hung on the wall, while others - Freud. But while kuchevskie aunt will not be included in and a certain artistic context vnehudozhestvenny they will continue to read at the level of discourse on the smear, composition, drawing and color.

Well, that's the essence of the whole. In this contest. In this context a lot of money vbuhivayut (and with unknown results) or he comes with time. Again, for whom coming, but for whom there is no ...

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Сообщение от fabosch

Well, that's the essence of the whole . In this contest. In this context a lot of money vbuhivayut (and with unknown results) or he comes with time. Again, for whom coming, and to whom, and no ...

I totally agree. In this sense, Soviet art , socialist realism in some of their samples have yet to find the prospect of context , and in principle and in the end - to shoot . Of course , no guarantee that this will happen , but the likelihood of this - because of certain conditions (the context is, vbuhivat does not have anything ) - is essential.

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Glavred London newspaper wrote a biography of Lucian Freud

Chief editor of British newspaper The London Evening Standart Geordie Greig (Geordie Greig) wrote a biography of Lucian Freud, one of the most highly paid artists of our time, who died July 20 in London. It is reported by The Times.
Greig, the former head of the magazine Tatler, the artist during his lifetime published several interviews with him. Freud, in particular, told a journalist how to lose at cards with him promised to punish the criminals famous brothers Cray, as he came out with Greta Garbo at the height of her fame. According to Greig, during the meeting with Freud, they discussed art, debts, enemies, poetry and more.

Greig said that the death of the artist allows him to talk about the facts of his biography, previously unknown to the public. However, the journalist has said that his memoirs, which will be released in autumn 2012, will be written in the language of calm, as it would like to Freud himself. The book will also include stories of relatives of the artist, his friends, as well as photographs taken by a journalist. In addition, the book will get reproductions of paintings of Freud.

Greig was one of those who in recent years on Saturday at breakfast with Freud Clarke's restaurant in London. According to him, the artist chose for breakfast game and burgundy. It is known that the grandson of the founder of psychoanalysis Sigmund Freud had a lot of novels. He left at least ten children.

Lucien Freud portrait was, and also specialized in the nude. His work has enjoyed success at auctions. The painting "The Sleeping sotsrabotnitsa" in 2008 was sold at Christie's auction for 33.6 million dollars. Buyer was a Russian businessman Roman Abramovich.

http://lenta.ru/news/2011/08/18/bio/

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A good portrait with a quote from this

Author Koos Breukel.

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head boy "by Lucian Freud sold in London for 3.2 million pounds


LONDON, October 13 - RIA Novosti, Elena Pakhomov. The painting "The head boy" of the famous British painter Lucian Freud portrait painter, who died last summer, sold on Thursday at Sotheby's in London for 3.2 million pounds, reports the press service of the auction house.

This work was focused on the maximum attention to the ongoing contemporary art auction Sotheby's, after the death of the painter as experts predicted, the price on his work. But the small-size portrait of the surprises are not brought, laid in estimate, amounting to 3-4 million pounds.

"Head Boy" - one of the best examples of psychological realism of the artist - and bleak, and distorted facial features.

Model was Charlie Lumley, a London neighbor Freud. In 1943 the artist moved to the area of ​​Paddington in an apartment near Regent's Canal and the local "Little Venice". Freud was, as he himself wrote, "in marginal environments, which was dominated by anarchist sentiments, and no one seemed to work." Next door lived the brothers Billy and Charlie Lumley, with whom the artist befriended when they forgot the keys, climbed back over his balcony. Charlie Lumley more than once posed for Freud.

Lucien Freud, grandson of the founder of psychoanalysis, Sigmund Freud, has died in the summer of 2011 in London at the age of 88. He was one of the greatest and, for the auction market, the most expensive contemporary artists. Freud had in life to go world record - in 2008, his painting "The Sleeping aids guard" went to Christie's auction for 33.6 million dollars. So, set a world record price for a product a living artist.

http://www.ria.ru/culture/20111013/458315392.html

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran ; 1778713"

A good portrait of a quote from this picture.
Author Koos Breukel.

indeed , a beautiful portrait !
The remarkable thing: something like the cropped sleeve sweater ( as the English say : "like nobody oves him" ( as Bud is unowned )
very much (we vyat to note , very artistic, especially when you consider . that Lucien Freud was found pischuschey ( gossip column ) to take one of the elegant (" knowing how to dress " ) of the men of Britain ..

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Triptych " Three sketches for a portrait by Lucian Freud " by Francis Bacon in 1969 will exhibit at the New York auction of postwar and contemporary art, which will Christie's November 12, 2013 .
Experts auction house previously estimated canvas $ 85 million , and in turn, suggests that the cost of painting the auction may reach about 95 million.

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At yesterday Contemporary
Art Evening Auction Lucian Freud exhibition Голова
on green couch /Head on a Green Sofa sold for £ 2,994,500 /$ 4,923,557.

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And the next day after the sale heads on Contemporary Art Day Auction , was sold a set of 11 previously unpublished letters of the young Lucian Freud to his first girlfriend Felicity Hellaby /Felicity Hellaby and three drawings donated her own .
For this set (lots 144, 145, 146, 147) have been earned in total £ 412,000, against the estimate to £ 58,000.