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Старый 24.09.2009, 22:27 Язык оригинала: Русский       #91
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I Intuitively and autographed by the author
I'm an ignorant and distrustful.
My intuition tells me that Victor G. is not the author of these portraits.
It happened 3-6 courses Kiev hud.instituta I had the opportunity to learn in the workshop VG Bubble. Diploma defended also as a graduate workshop Bubble.
Views on the painting, we are different. Nevertheless, I am with great respect for this artist.
Sorry, but what you show does not resemble his handwriting.
Maybe I am wrong?



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Старый 24.09.2009, 23:12 Язык оригинала: Русский       #92
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And my money on these portraits surprised. Each of 1250 rubles? This is in 1972-something?
  In 1972, AvtoVAZ has launched the production of more powerful version of Zhiguli-VAZ-2103, is widely perceived as a completely new, more powerful and comfortable model.
How then Zhiguli cost and actually machine, a car?
prices in the mid 70-ies were as follows: "Volga" GAZ-24 (which, however, sold very little) - 9200rub, "Lada VAZ-2101 - 5500, VAZ-21011 - 6000, VAZ-2103 - 7500, "Moskvich-412 - 4990, and Zaporozhets ZAZ-968 - 3500руб. The average salary of a normal male was then earning about two hundred rubles a month. (c)



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Старый 25.09.2009, 08:58 Язык оригинала: Русский       #93
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And my money on these portraits were surprised. Each of 1250 rubles? This is in 1972-something?
There is nothing surprising in this. There were also those prices, there were more.
Everything depended on the management of the factories. Moreover, as can be seen on the labels it was a beautifully-sculptural complex, and sculpture has always valued dearly. Apparently there is inertia on the painting famous artists was evaluated more expensive.



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Старый 25.09.2009, 10:09 Язык оригинала: Русский       #94
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For stickers cling not worth it.
Room hudfonda on Vassilkovskaya who not only gave a lease with all the debris.
Lift from the floor a piece of paper and write what you want ...
By the way forgot to draw a stamp. "Uplocheno" for example.

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At Vassilkovskaya were decorating workshops. There must have been created portraits of members of the Politburo and other mass production without the ideological claims of authorship.
In so far as I remember the Soviet system of distribution orders - painters, designers, sculptors, designers each other's bread was not selected.
In Victor G. workshop was on Khreschatyk. His duties included teaching at the Art Institute and the writing of several other works. For example - "Black Sea"



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Старый 25.09.2009, 10:55 Язык оригинала: Русский       #95
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I Intuitively and autograph of the author,
bubble - master of the bold, broad painting. For his paintings characterized by richness, emotional excitement, sharpness and clarity of composition, color saturation. ...
I also do not believe that Victor G. could write these two grotesque portrait (in form). Imagine this work in 1972, then "Putin" - 1976, "They Fought for Their Country" - 1977. And in 1979 he awarded the title People's Artist of the USSR.



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Старый 25.09.2009, 18:15 Язык оригинала: Русский       #96
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Maybe I'm wrong?
I think you're wrong, falsify these works Bubble no sense,
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For it is not necessary to cling stickers.
Room hudfonda to Vassilkovskaya who not only gave a lease with all the debris.
Lift from the floor a piece of paper and write what you want ...
By the way forgot to draw a stamp. "Uplocheno" for example.
Are you serious: eek:
Stamps uplocheno the passports did not set, similar to a passport attendance of many meters, I can search set.



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Старый 25.09.2009, 22:55 Язык оригинала: Русский       #97
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I think you're wrong, falsify these works Bubble is no sense
I think you have someone misled with these portraits.
If you find this principle, the question can be closed once and for all.
There is a union of artists.
There are very many students.
There is his family, who did not want to traumatize. All these people honor the memory of this wonderful artist.
You want to continue?



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Старый 25.09.2009, 23:30 Язык оригинала: Русский       #98
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I think you have someone misled with these portraits.
If you find this principle, the question can be closed once and for all.
There is a union of artists.
There are very many students.
There is his family, who did not want to traumatize. All these people honor the memory of this wonderful artist.
You want to continue?
After your posts, for me a matter of principle, or do you have to admit its mistake, or reasonably prove their case, and the stories of those who where and with whom he studied as arguments do not acknowledge.
  Ready to provide any photos, and pictures of themselves, for any examinations.
We will continue?

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v_r, excuse me, but I kazhetsa you razvivaetsya mania ...
Trust me for many years through my hands after a few thousand working in osnovnm Ukrainian artists, among them many risers (Lenin, Marx, Engels). So Bubble met a second time (both times, Lenin and Marx) to buy at prices cheaper than the canvas of this size and you got me trying to convince that the bubbles do not have to do the above work irrelevant. Moreover risers were filled Lomykinym, Basantsom, meetings, Antonchik, Tokarev, Chichkan badly that not preserved the bulk of snaps, did not create the archive. Revolve And I'm not trying to offend you and my esteemed artist, especially his family, just the realities of the country forced many to do things typical for yourself. But in this there is a zest.



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Старый 26.09.2009, 00:23 Язык оригинала: Русский       #99
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After your posts, for me a matter of principle, or you dolzhngy admit its mistake, or reasonably prove their case, and that stories of those who where and with whom he studied as arguments do not acknowledge.
Ready to provide any photos, and pictures of themselves, for any examinations.
We will continue?
During the examination must apply to the experts, you are well aware.
If you have no doubt about the authenticity, please Put or send photos in high resolution. Regarding labels, I have already written.
Photos that are present in this tree does not need anyone's explanation. In addition to serious doubts about the authenticity of signatures, no emotion is.
It is not difficult to make a few calls and talk about it with anyone in the SC or with my classmates, or relatives of Victor G..
If you suddenly find that these portraits were written hand VG Bubble, I publicly admit its mistake.
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v_r, excuse me, but I kazhetsa you razvivaetsya mania
Unfortunately not mania, and experience.



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Старый 26.09.2009, 00:43 Язык оригинала: Русский       #100
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Do not see the point to debate with you about the authenticity of the people in the subject and so can all see, or when the interest for more Join to e-mail. You are a man of experience and can afford to admit (as a bad photo) counterfeiting, on the passports to inform you as the expert that the net passport costs about $ 50, I think on the floor, they do not valyayutsya and use them in the pictures are not really low cost. Communicate with knowledgeable and intelligent people will get smart answers and admit his mistake.
Specify which sites to remove detail with high resolution and let us mail.



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