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Старый 01.08.2008, 18:28 Язык оригинала: Русский       #91
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По умолчанию what is this famous story by Hans Haacke?

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Allena, thank you. Strong, interesting and very accessible language article written by Catherine Tar.
That moment, which is like:
4. Violate a taboo, unless you are prepared for the consequences. Including a speech at an open process that can change society. The provocation is not so bad, that provokes, and the fact that at this stop.

Violate a taboo can and should be for the sake of a great social purpose. If it needs to part with the art, with him to leave. So did Hans Haacke in his famous research projects, to expose a policy sponsor in American museums: this is a purely journalistic project. And great work of the artist.


Who knows what the famous story by Hans Haacke?



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Старый 04.08.2008, 17:29 Язык оригинала: Русский       #92
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So it's much more interesting: "dvizhuha, intrigue, wiring, assaults, war - these men's classes. And you want them to swallow the dust, yes hozyastvom doing?
I thought of all listed intrigue - a lot more women as physically weaker sex ... But now everything upside down, you can not tell from someone hu
But organizers of public events should still be aware of what can cause these or other exhibits, take into account the degree of society's willingness to accept the proposed for display. What seems normal to some other boxes and offends their feelings. Society uniform. For some - the art, for others - a provocation.



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Старый 05.08.2008, 10:09 Язык оригинала: Русский       #93
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I think this is a problem not only Tretyakov ... but most Russian museums ... but another stone in the direction Erofeev thrown ... I'm not defending him, but we must not talk about a single instance, but the general situation ...



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Старый 05.08.2008, 17:51 Язык оригинала: Русский       #94
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should not talk about a single instance, but the overall situation ...
I think this is the case, which you should say, though he and the unit. Probably, there are few museums, where everything is so much would keep the same name. And again: Tretyakovka still ...



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Старый 06.08.2008, 07:19 Язык оригинала: Русский       #95
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where everything is so much would keep the same name.
Dear Alena, if the museum's storerooms are hundreds of orphan pictures, is a complete incompetent not just Erofeev (as leader), but also the chief custodian of the Tretyakov Gallery and the course director Radionova, they also should be immediately dismissed.
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Talent Erofeeva (as curator of exhibitions) can not be questioned, it is one of the best curators in Russia, but as a manager, director of the explicit non-professionalism.



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Старый 06.08.2008, 09:31 Язык оригинала: Русский       #96
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agree with Eugene, in terms of
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is a complete incompetent not just Erofeeva (as leader), but also the chief custodian of the Tretyakov Gallery and the course director Rodionova,
And what excuse these gentlemen looked? Definitely Erofeev blame, but to make a scapegoat out of one man is much easier than to admit their mistakes and shortcomings. I repeat, mess with the storage of things - the scourge of almost all museums in Russia. This problem should be solved at the level of the museum is not one ... but the whole museum complex of Russia in general. Know how many interesting things there ...



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Старый 06.08.2008, 09:50 Язык оригинала: Русский       #97
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I think this is the case, which you should say, though he and the unit. Probably, there are few museums, where everything is so much would keep the same name. And again: Tretyakovka still ...
Dear Alena, that, as you say, "all rested on one person, has an explanation. This has already been written - actually, I did and wrote - but even I do not remember where it was (my God, this is already smacks of grafomanstvo)

The fact that Andrei Erofeev no ordinary employee. He came to the GTG with a very large collection, which has collected in the 90's, when apart from him and Bazhanov about art in general, no one thought (and this too can understand, life was so). Was formed of the newest trends, which shifted the work formerly belonged to the museum Tsaritsino, directed by Andrew, but Andrew was appointed its leader. Is it not a logical decision?

You know, I ubezhdenv that good menezhdera naytm much easier than a man who could create a large and coherent collection. Another thing is that such rights must be maintained, for example, giving him assistance of a competent manager: p



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Старый 06.08.2008, 10:19 Язык оригинала: Русский       #98
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Off-topic.

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knows how to create a large and coherent collection
Medieval you put it, LCR. One would like to here the word "coherent" to replace the word "commensurate"

In fact, in this case, I'm trying to parody "Vij" Gogol (although this is impossible - an unsurpassed talent!).

Here is a quote:

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He (philosopher - ca. Mine) went down and saw the tent, which took at first for a baker's oven on wheels. In fact, it was as deep as the oven, in which bricks are baked. It was the usual crew of Krakow, in which Jews fifty together with the goods in all the cities where they smell the fair. He waited six people healthy and strong Cossacks, several elderly. Scrolls of fine cloth with tassels, showed that they belonged to a rather large and wealthy owner. Small scars were told that they had been once the war is not without glory.

     "What can we do? What to be, that can not escape!" - Philosopher thought to himself, and turning to the Cossacks, he said aloud:

     - Hello, brothers and comrades!

     - Farewell, Mr. Philosopher! - Meet some of the Cossacks.

     - So this is I have to sit with you? A Brik noble! - He continued climbing. - There would only hire musicians and we can dance.

     - Yes, commensurate with the crew! - Said one of the Cossacks, sitting on the box beside himself, each with a coachman, who had tied her head rag instead of a hat, which he managed to leave in a tavern. The other five, along with philosopher crawled into the deepening and spread on sacks filled with different purchases made in the city.

     - It is curious to know, - said the philosopher, - if, for example, this chaise loaded with goods of some sort - let's salt or iron wedge: how much would be needed then the horses?

     - Yes, - said after a moment, sitting on the box Kozak - enough to require the number of horses.

     After a satisfactory response Cossack thought himself entitled to remain silent during the whole way.
In the film, with the old Soviet Kuravlevym Varley and played with it was wonderful!

I apologize for îôôòîï.



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Старый 06.08.2008, 10:28 Язык оригинала: Русский       #99
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if, for example, this chaise loaded with goods of some sort - let's salt or iron wedge: how much would be needed then the horses?
Yes, but, in our case load to load, and the horses and did not.



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Старый 06.08.2008, 11:10 Язык оригинала: Русский       #100
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was formed of the newest trends, which shifted the work formerly belonged to the museum Tsaritsino, directed by Andrew, but Andrew was appointed its leader. Is it not a logical decision?
Of course, logical! But, unfortunately, the people significant creative, are rarely good administrator. And for all that happened, the fault lies only in the administration of the museum. It is her task to organize competent possession of what has come to the museum. I agree with Eugene that the issues in this case should be addressed only to the museum, which (as is clear from the interview, Ms. Lebedeva) knew about the troubles with the storage department, with a long time. And now - everything is simple: unwanted fired (just and suitable for long been the cause), all you can throw at him, and with sleeves rolled up, feeling themselves to be heroes, to rake all of that themselves had wrought.



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