How to unleash the artist

[Seriy]

Remi, pure art out of the market can not be by the very definition of art. The picture emerges when it is near the viewer. If the viewer is not a piece of linen smeared pigment in oil. And ... There may be different markets and different audience, but some kind of separated from the modern artist to the viewer of art can not exist.

[AlexanderG]

Pure art out of the market can not be by the very definition of art. The picture emerges when it is near the viewer, it occurs to him, the viewer, his head ..

Zritel 'ne iavliaetsia chast'iu rynka. Pokupatel '- da.

[Seriy]

AlexanderG, hurry, hurry ... Picasso "Avignon Girls" was sold many years after writing, it simply was not present either on the exhibition or the sale of T e was out of the market. But she had the audience, they have spread about her message. And this thing influenced the entire world every market of the 20 th century, like no other ..... before the sale ..

[AlexanderG]

Originally Posted by Seriy

AlexanderG, hurry, hurry ... Picasso "Avignon Girls" was sold many years after writing, it simply was not present either on the exhibition or the sale of T e was out of the market. But she had the audience, they have spread about her message. And this thing influenced the entire world every market of the 20 th century, like no other ..... before the sale ..

Ne vizu sviazi. Esli zriteli raznosiat vest ', to oni uze ne zriteli, a otdel marketinga !

A esli ona ne vystavlialas ', to i zritelei u nee ne moglo byt'.
Ne speshu.

[Seriy]

this is what I say, the viewer creates a picture along with the artist.
This wall, which plays a sunbeam. No walls and no bunny.

[AlexanderG]

Gde-to ia vas poterial ...

[Remi]

Originally Posted by Seriy

this is what I say, the viewer creates a picture along with the artist.
This wall, which plays a sunbeam. No walls and no bunny.

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[Seriy]

Originally Posted by Remi

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And unclear here? The picture is written (a work of art is created) in the calculation that was the modern viewer.
Tsar Ivan kills his son Ivan - tragic picture of meaningful ... but to band member Mumba-Yumba from Equatorial Gvinenii - it is simply nonsense to vegetable oil, no bananas or green monkeys.
So beautiful paintings by Picasso in the 20 th century, and in 19-m is not something that would be laughed ...
Language of images changes along with society, so there is always a cast of a society in which the artist lived and images from the same draw.

[iside]

Originally Posted by Seriy

The picture is written (a work of art is created) in the expectation that the modern, the viewer

Seriy,

I'd rather you did not read at all, because almost every Your message gives me the desire to join with you in the dispute.

I think that the picture (as the possible work of art) are just two cases. 1 case - when a person comes to the artist and says: Draw a portrait of his wife (razrisuy walls of the church, playing back story from the Bible, draw a certain moment in history), 2 case - when an artist has an idea, have an image, a thought, and he tries to express through painting.

In the second case, the artist will still see if someone is his masterpiece, buy it and for how much, and I think that such works more chance to get into the category of art. In the first case, already supports the idea of the customer, but in the history of many examples of custom work and turned into masterpieces.

The case that you describe, namely the creation of paintings by some average fashion trends + criteria analysis of sales by auction of contemporary art in the calculation of Modern Viewers - is not art, it's business. It's not bad, it's just another field of activity.

Just as IKEA sells posters and analyzes, for example: last year, mostly selling posters with black-and-white images of the city, and colored posters of tropical beaches are not sold at all - the conclusion: do not print the beaches, increase print b /w cities.

Originally Posted by Seriy

but for a member of the tribe Mumba-Yumba from Equatorial Gvinenii - it is simply nonsense to vegetable oil, no bananas or green monkey

And you tried to communicate with a member of the tribe?

[ikoku]

Originally Posted by Seriy

Tsar Ivan kills his son Ivan - tragic picture of meaningful ... but to band member Mumba-Yumba from Equatorial Gvinenii - it is simply nonsense to vegetable oil, no bananas or green monkeys.

Seriy, in Equatorial Guinea is no such tribe