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Старый 16.09.2009, 11:54 Язык оригинала: Русский       #1
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By and large the majority - tragically.
In what sense? After all, they waited for the collapse of socialism and the capitalist offensive bright tomorrow. : confused:
Also interested in something created in a free society, those who moved to NY or other cities and countries.
On the work, for example, Kosolapova have representation, but with no other sign.



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Старый 16.09.2009, 12:36 Язык оригинала: Русский       #2
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In what sense? After all, they waited for the collapse of socialism and the capitalist offensive bright tomorrow. : confused:
Also interested in something created in a free society, those who moved to NY or other cities and countries.
About creativity, unless of course this is what you are interested in many topics on the forum.

And to explain the meaning and motivation of the participants of the exhibition for people with a strong herd instinct is not possible. However, as nothing to explain to people not reached in their country how much effort is made to the emigrant though something in someone else's.: D



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Старый 16.09.2009, 12:48 Язык оригинала: Русский       #3
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In what sense? After all, they waited for the collapse of socialism and the capitalist offensive bright tomorrow.
Also interested in something created in a free society, those who moved to NY or other cities and countries.
Posav - noticed that you do not want to answer? Because it is clear that the purpose of the issue to start a market on the world backstage.
All continue in this spirit in the gazebo or on other sites, we are going to delete.



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Старый 16.09.2009, 18:46 Язык оригинала: Русский       #4
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Ktoto said it would not be bulldozing them, nobody would know. They should be grateful, such advertising. But in general, then more politics. I myself started in the studio at the Palace of Culture named after Lenin in Gorki. It was a lot of people, exhibitions, opportunities until entering university-Surikovku and Stroganovka. Now everything is closed, it hurts smotret.V huge building billiards hall. Now it is not possible to stand.



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Старый 16.09.2009, 20:22 Язык оригинала: Русский       #5
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They should be grateful, such advertising.
Paul, well, we're with you well understand what could end this "advertising". This similar actions in the West ended in an editorial in the Times. And in 1974 the Soviet Union the consequences of "promotion" practiced quite different - mustard gas in the shoes, repressive psychiatry, but little if anything. Let people went to the rally with some calculation, but it was a serious risk. The act - in any case.



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Paul, well, we're with you well understand, what could end this "advertising". This similar actions in the West ended in an editorial in the Times. And in 1974 the Soviet Union the consequences of "promotion" practiced quite different - mustard gas in the shoes, repressive psychiatry, but little if anything. Let people went to the rally with some calculation, but it was a serious risk. The act - in any case.
All of these methods you have re-mesto.No in this case do not condense kraski.Vot, 4 years later, the 78-m, one of the initiators and the main actors Bulldozer - Oscar Rabin and his family "expel from the country: they simply do not allowed to return from French tours, deprived of citizenship. Note that none of their escorted from the chamber to the border not delivered. Let's go to a tourist trip to France ..... Many people traveled on tours, even a "safe"? And the rest, of course no medals handed out, but on Novaya Zemlya in the "creative assignment" is not etapirovali.Vse through - everyone got what hotel.A important - reputation. Otherwise, why is the list of "bulldozer", from the first to this day utrusit can not.



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Старый 16.09.2009, 21:26 Язык оригинала: Русский       #7
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. And in 1974 the Soviet Union the consequences of "promotion" practiced quite different - mustard gas in the shoes, repressive psychiatry, but little if anything ..
Come on then exaggerate. There would have been a problem with the entry into the Union of Artists and hud.sovety would not be favorable for the selection of works in the exhibition. But these people have chosen to be the opposition - why should they when the Union of Artists of the USSR and their exhibitions?
Repressive psychiatry is when they could not stop the specific dissident critics of socialism. In those scenes, and such criticism was not a special order. It should be remembered that at that time was the cold war and tensions in international relations. For comparison, in their U.S. supporters of socialism, the Communist Party, a pacifist, too, suffered persecution, and the blacks not so long ago at all beaten with sticks. We must not forget that if it was the confrontation and both systems were holding hands on the nuclear button.



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Старый 16.09.2009, 22:42 Язык оригинала: Русский       #8
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This was not an exhibition as a provocation-hooliganism.
Paul!
What kind of hooliganism you say?
September 2 artists were sent to Moscow City Council a letter informing city officials that "September 15 ... organized the first autumn show of paintings in the open air. Such a not very attractive as a place of emptiness, we have chosen for one simple reason: the exposition of paintings on the square, street or promenade can easily be construed in accordance with Soviet law as a "breach of public order." At the same vacant lot or people do not go, no car is not running, so it is impossible to violate the order ... "
 
A provocation, certainly was, but - with the authorities! Deny - not banned, but it was arranged without fail subbotnik on this vacant lot.



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Maroussia, must not only say what I want to build a rally, but wait for written permission. Now unions write applications for several months, waiting for an answer, and often they are offered a place for the meeting is not something that was said.

Write what were unhappy dissidents who had the fate (or thought-out move) to leave the USSR. Well then, let's calculate how many of them returned after Yeltsin proclaimed freedom.
  I think that many of them very much like this left.
Imagine that now some officials from the embassies of countries unfriendly to buy a lot of money for work critical of the existing system. Even the prospect of departure is, the benefits to the refugee and sell for good money. How is art or direction would be free and not biased?
     As for the fight in the field. This Cogan or whoever, he happily reports that the first hit and broke his nose peasant and then swooped down on him. And it is nothing broke for it. Now in all the scuffle opponents, too, and banners are torn, too. Pouring water is also not news.



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It is not that what art direction has been working and how much they were worth after the event and they are now, and that people have found the courage at that time to fight for the right of existence of his works.



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