Petrov, Arkady Ivanovich

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Сообщение от fross

And shove it into a social art fail

Creativity Mikhail Roginsky I like very much, I had nowhere stuffed, his art is a social art ...

Сообщение от antip

And yet it can dignify as "Confessor Sots Art".

Fully agree with you. (About Leonid Purygin)

Сообщение от Gala

Sochi .. the sun ..,

plus good mood ..

Сообщение от fross

It is like.

  Well at least that some of Sots Art, you like, have a look.

Сообщение от fross

social art

Frosya, Could you explain what you mean by the direction of the social art?
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                  Dip-art: Deep Art of the Cold War
Andrey Kovalev. Russian Journal. Inreresnaya article about a social art ..
http://old.russ.ru/krug/20000820_kov-pr.html

[fross]

Eugene

Frosya, Could you explain what you mean by the direction of the social art?

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In my view social art is all that use symbols and cliches of socialist reality, and this trend has been most extensively represented in the adjustment period. But I'm not an expert, and my opinion may be wrong.

Thank you for the article Kovalev. He has over the period of the last 50 years named: the new realism, social art, deep-art, metaphysics, surrealism, abstract art, mysticism. Where can I read: What other areas of art submitted to our modern art, and more in detail - their distinctive characteristics, the authors and major works?
And then all or political grounds conformist non-conformist, or by year-cities.: Confused:

[LCR]

Well, come: before my Roginsky all pop-art sewing, now a social art pasted

Do I have to say that I absolutely do not agree to these? But generally speaking, if someone so like, please, as they say, "even though you call a pot, just not put in the oven!

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Сообщение от fross

Eugene

Thank you for the article Kovalev. He has over the period of the last 50 years named: the new realism, social art, deep-art, metaphysics, surrealism, abstract art, mysticism. Where can I read: What other areas of art submitted to our modern art, and more in detail - their distinctive characteristics, the authors and major works?
And then all or political grounds conformist non-conformist, or by year-cities.: Confused:

Frosinka you sensitive mess

Deep-art ", there is no such direction, it is a joke (evil) - or not quite a joke - clever Andrei Kovalev, so you have to throw him out of your list, without delay, and tremble in his hand

As compensation for the ongoing censorship I propose to include a rich word "conceptualism" (Kabakov, Pivovarov, Bulatov, Vassiliev, Prigov, etc., etc.).

As pop art, the question was whether the USSR /Russia pop art, remains open. Andrei Erofeev, who organized the exhibition, the 2 back "Russian Pop Art" obviously believed there was. He defended his views in numerous articles and interviews on the subject (they are easily found on the internet). Other art historians and critics (which also can be read on the Internet) believe that it was not. I personally (not that it had any sort were important, I say it's just for information) is inclined to believe that there is no pop-art in there was not, and could not be.

Whoever I will explain the stylistic differences between metaphysics and mysticism in art, I am ready to give out their bins 1 copy of the catalog Roginsky

Sots Art - certainly the original direction, which originated in the USSR 70-e gg. Typically, the list of artists of this trend include Milamida and Komar, Lenya juices, Boria Orlova, Sasha Kosolapov, a group of "Nest" (Roshal - Skersis - Don), well beyond, I do not remember or do not know, but they are legion.
I read somewhere that Roginskii influenced the emergence of Sots Art, I do not know how true this is. In any case, it is the trend was not interested, although he adored juices, very fond Roshal - but not as artists Sots Art, and just as insanely talented artists.

Generally, there is such a book, "History of Russian Art" or something like that, write a scholarly lady named Catherine Tar. I have not read it - that's why I have my own ideas - but without a doubt, she understands all of the latest trends better than many (Erofeev also very knowledgeable man, but, unlike the Tar Baby, is not particularly writing).
Here is my modest contribution to help you find the answer to the tantalizing question you are

[Евгений]

LCR, at the expense of pop art does not agree, at the expense of sots-art part, but everyone has their mnenie.Tem more I just art dealer (art dealer).

Сообщение от LCR

to help you find the answer to the tantalizing question you are

The main question was not answered, Mikhail Roginsky? Sots-art, pop art, or simply social realism?
Good article on Michael Roginsky
  http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showth...985&page=7
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The most important thing in the works Roginsky and here I agree with Kovalev (http://old.russ.ru/krug/20000820_kov-pr.html)
"... in its principle a serious attitude and to the thing itself, and to engage in art ..."

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LCR, I read another article (on torchestve Mikhail Roginsky) and realized response, we will not find their questions .. shoot ...
http://www.guelman.ru/culture/review...01/view_print/

[dedulya37]

Eugene, so if someone like, please, as they say, "even though you call a pot, just not put in the oven"!
That is, in my opinion, the most correct answer!

[LCR]

This article Nikita Alexeev, in which he gives his views on the existence in Russia of pop art:
http://www.izvestia.ru/culture/article2715763/
I quote here the text of article, because the Internet - something insidious: site today and tomorrow - no: p


Warhol them no
Nikita Alexeev
In the State Tretyakov Gallery in Krymsky Val just two exhibitions about pop art. If the exhibition "Andy Warhol: Artist of modern life" just about pop, the "Russian Pop Art" somewhat puzzling.

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The shadow of a doubt about the first exhibition is only the name: "the pontiff of pop art, died in 1986, during which time a lot has changed, and hardly the life that investigated this great artist, we are fully up to date. In other matters the same - an excellent retrospective exhibition. Things are very nice, axiomatic, but sorry that the exposition made in the State Tretyakov Gallery, Moscow Union as zonal exhibition in 1979, with a dull and horrible hanging light. "Russian Pop Art" intricate.

Pop Art emerged in the mid-50's in Britain and the United States, soon appeared to local variations in other Western countries. And in America, and Europe was to society in an era of standardized consumption. The ancestors of pop art in different ways, but equally ostranenno and cynical-ironic reacted to this new reality. In the USSR was nothing like this. In the early 60's against a background of total material shortages, we had something deceptively similar to pop art. Boris worked as Turkish, but the assemblages are similar to most painful works of the German Dadaists 10-20-ies - the memory of the war openly bleeding. Create the products, depicting the front door, a kerosene stove, a string bag with potatoes, impoverished showcase grocery or kitchen tiles, excellent Mikhail Roginsky. In trying to label him "the father of Russian pop-art" Roginskii fiercely resisted. In the late 60's - early 70's in the Soviet Union began to do something more akin to pop art. But because all gulped American canned tomato soup and washing laundry powder Heinz, and for the reason that Western art has become the reference material, which should have been my hands with soap "Strawberry", to compete by means of art, made at home.

Appeared a few artists who understand that the USSR is something no less intrusive and more terrible than Sampbell's Soup and Marilyn Monroe - Soviet ideological production: the slogans "Lenin is more alive and all the living", the Leaderboard, iconostasis with members of the Politburo and monuments placed on the expanses of the homeland. Arose due to Vitaly Komar and Alexander Melamid, a social art, and under his influence, and in its different bringeth worked Leonid juices and Alexander Kosolapov, Boris Orlov, Rostislav Lebedev, and others. But was it related to pop art (though, at this exhibition Komar, Melamid no)? Even more questionable inclusion in the exhibition of early works by Ilya Kabakov and its lack of Erik Bulatov's paintings, done with the face of Brezhnev and the emblem of the Soviet Union almost the same as that Warhol - with a jar of tomato soup with a smile Monroe. Pop artists of these - the artists? Hardly, as Igor Shelkovsky, Ivan Chuikov, Igor Makarevich and other masters of the 70's. Pop Art was interested in them, but only as one of the possibilities of artistic freedom.

[Glasha]

Сообщение от Eugene

is a gala you about sex or what?

Zhenya? .. It was cited by Advertising chocolate .. Greetings from Grandfather Freud? Sochi .. the sun .., hormones?

[Евгений]

Сообщение от antip

The layout of the plot licked
Grisha Bruskin, the most expensive work in the style of "social art", the first time Bartered
at auction Sotheby's, in the early 1990's g.g.No Bruskin, it Bruskin, talent and character.

Thank you for the comment, but "Arkady Petrov (b. 1938) - one of the leading local artists generation 70. His art, just like many of his contemporaries in Soviet times, actually fall into the category of "prohibited." His pictures are almost never appeared on official announcements, although the artistic environment of his authority was quite high: as different authors as
Grisha Bruskin (r.1945g)http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showthread.php?t=4435
Leonid Purygin (1951-1995)http://www.krugosvet.ru/articles/93/.../1009345a1.htm
  equally tested the impact of creativity Petrova. "
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Guys, let's calmly discuss social art, without emotion ...
V. Komar, M. Roginsky, Melamid, Mr. Bruskin, L. Purygin, A. Petrov, Prigov, Kabakov, etc. ... all this is a social art as if someone did not like .. light up .....

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Сообщение от antip

And with regard to behold such Petrovykh is mediocre biznes.Proizvoditelnost
such work is high, it can be foolish head and share a single passage in
tram at about 20 years ahead

Сообщение от fross

I join by simply working: horror-awful.

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From the book reviews from the exhibition (G. Bruskin "Life Is Everywhere") Pushkin Museum Pushkin (2001)
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Bruskin (and Rubinstein, too) should be ashamed. But the money is better than a conscience, is not it, gentlemen?

Alekseev. Retiree
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Carefully inspected your exhibition. One thing is clear, your boss - the American dollar.

Elena B.
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Such daub not enter into eternity.

Wisher

http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showthread.php?t=4435
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All this we have already passed my dear Frosya Antip ...

[Евгений]

Arkady Petrov on-ARTINFO

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