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Старый 20.06.2013, 16:44 Язык оригинала: Русский       #41
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The specialists of the Accounts Chamber in conjunction with the Economic Crime Department and the prosecutor's office for several hours seize documents from the office dismissed the head of the Museum of Contemporary Art in Perm Marat Gelman
June 20, 2013|17:30
As the LifeNEWS, withdrawn financial statements relating to the activities of the museum and the festival "White Nights ." Checking initiated by the governor of Perm region , Dmitry Basargin . As it became known Layf.Nyus prosecutors examine not only the budget of the festival , but also to find out whether legally paid Marat Gelman salary as other heads of regional cultural institutions. In this case, the Governor instructed to analyze not only the expenditure part of the festival, but also meaningful .
It is clear that the case smelled prison. What advise Gelman ?
Option two :

1. Ride in London
2 . Wait for prison

Could he have than to end his odyssey Perm ...

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But surely someone thinks that he himself had hired investigators to search ?



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Старый 20.06.2013, 17:38 Язык оригинала: Русский       #42
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Nothing.

Just when someone shows from year to year there is the same, it is possible to draw some conclusions about the author himself, and about his work.

Make your last conclusion.



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Старый 20.06.2013, 17:41 Язык оригинала: Русский       #43
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Finally Make your conclusion.
Well, my conclusion is something I did a long time ago.



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Старый 20.06.2013, 17:43 Язык оригинала: Русский       #44
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Colleagues back to the topic :

It is clear that the case smelled prison. What advise Gelman ?
Option two :

1. Ride in London
2 . Wait for prison

Could he have than to end his odyssey Perm ...

PS
But surely someone thinks that he himself had hired investigators to search ?
No one suggests that . Apparently he did something stupid , relied on large public relations or another that , but it turned out that that happened. Let's see , the path is not ispovedimy . He must have thought when I started.

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Why ?
This is only a test , even no case has not yet instituted.
Yes, and will not, I think , no matter: namely Gelman to the money of the festival "White Nights" had nothing to do , and in the museum, he says, everything is transparent , for seven inspections were before.
Well, my conclusion is something I did a long time ago .
Your conclusion does not interest me , I take the findings whiter respected critics, real and not any extras.




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Старый 20.06.2013, 17:51 Язык оригинала: Русский       #45
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Your conclusion does not interest me
I know why he was not made public.
 
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I use the findings whiter respected critics, these
Use, it is useful for proper digestion.
 
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Старый 20.06.2013, 18:35 Язык оригинала: Русский       #46
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Option two:


1.
Ride in London

2.
Wait for the prison
It is in London dozhidatsya test results.
About Chichvarkina remembered.
Favorite thing is possible and there zanimatsya.Esli course, within already leaving.
Gelman contacted with lovely people.
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Старый 20.06.2013, 18:35 Язык оригинала: Русский       #47
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Governor of the Perm Region V. Basargin:
 
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Many copies broken in recent years around the Permian cultural project, but what exactly he did well, so it is to attract attention to himself.

Any news related to the image of cultural capital and the ideologues of this project, the discussion is far more violent than the emergence of a new hospital or a factory.

On the eve of one more reason - it was decided to complete the work with M.A.Gelmanom.

And the law, and the reasons for such a move from the regional authorities were.

The day before I was set the task of the Government of the Territory and the governor of the Administration in conjunction with the Audit Chamber to conduct a series of tests. This process is long and detailed, the first results have shown that the potential for abuse were. The reaction to the steps taken showed that the delay is not necessary personnel changes, or any of the authorities to streamline the organization of work within the framework of the cultural project will continue to be touted as the stifling of freedom.

A couple of posts ago I have already spoken, that the views on what is considered an art, we disagree with Marat Aleksandrovich. This is not surprising - the common criteria of beauty in human history has never been, in all their views and their opinions. But, of course, not the difference in taste was the reason for the termination of the business relationship.

Public obstacles in terms of his vision of art - is unacceptable extreme, but the uncontrolled use of public resources to promote their view, no matter how correct it may seem to the artist, too, can not be true.

Authorities to determine the responsibility for how they spend the people's money, but just in case, with the Permian cultural project handling efficiency spending was very difficult, since clashed with the concepts of "freedom of art." In this case, a dialogue with the Ministry of Culture edge on controversial issues Marat A. was extremely reluctant.

M.A.Gelmana initiatives in recent weeks are reduced to attract to itself a certain kind of attention. This is another attempt "to capitalize" his name, what he should say, consistently doing well. So, as we work together dispersed not only strategy, but also objective. And the fact that these personal interests and activities used area, which are mainly organized and run by public money, gives regional and city authorities the right to not just express his "phi" to what is happening, but to resort to more drastic steps.

The situation can be compared with the resignation of coach in a major sports club - the region and sponsors invested in the team, and the result is "not very". Then give a chance to work on the same material to another specialist, and often it gives the effect.
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WF, you are your own judgment signed, local leaders, with which you are so lean, you will be like, not what they can not do, and we Permian for the next year will be considered as you spend our money, the benefit of a hole in the 15-yard you have done to us. Now do not regard the efficiency of 900,000 visits per month is not complete you call it is not effective? Or maybe the fact that the Western press about our city began to write not only about the colonies and the gulag, but also about the culture, there is not only modern, but also about the gods of the Permian, about Holovku, gallery ... Tell us how you determined that Marat is not effective?!
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If Gelman - the coach, the governor - the president of the club. Let's see what will be the success of a year. The festival and the information about it in the national media - a great indicator. The second indicator - how often my mother goes to the theater and concerts. Now 6-8 times a year. Until Chirkunova - once every few years.
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Старый 20.06.2013, 18:52 Язык оригинала: Русский       #48
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Responding to a question related to searches with any criminal case, M. Gelman wrote: "As far as I understand it - no. Checking the information published in" Izvestia ".

It is likely to go on the article, which reported that the festival "White Nights", which is organized by M. Gelman, cost budget of 250 million rubles. In the government of this amount, according to the publication, has caused confusion.

In the regional department of the Interior Ministry explained that the police together with the Prosecutor's Office and representatives of the Chamber are checking the "law of budgetary funds allocated for the organization and holding of the festival in Perm" White Nights. "In the police department added that the results will be given a legal assessment activities of the organizers of the festival.

It became known that the employment contract entered into with M.Gelmanom in 2008., Dissolved. The governor of the Perm region, commenting on his blog resign M. Gelman, said that "the right and the reasons for such a move from the regional authorities have been." In particular, said the head of the region, "a dialogue with the Ministry of Culture edge on controversial issues Marat A. was very reluctant."



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Старый 21.06.2013, 00:20 Язык оригинала: Русский       #49
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You're too hard on Gelman!
Seriy, I have to you and to the rest of the forum users (including to you artcol) that to people in the subject (just interested in - except Gelman at a single name gallerists involved sovriska name can not) question:
please call at least a few of our gallery owners, who "understood in the art and have brought to the world level of at least one artist, and preferably not" gone to the whistle "(along with its artists <! - ~ 11 ~ -> <! - ~ 7 ~ ->??

PS: my personal attitude to the Gelman - neutral, and possession of political technologies, in my opinion, for any gallerist only a plus.
I personally am now at the railway station in Saratov, where he had gone to see the exhibition of one of the Saratov artist, and on okszalsya occasion in the company and had the opportunity to diskursii regards ideological issues in the arts. ichestno put up her sad. unfortunately people who grew up in a scoop or afraid to raise these issues or simply do not understand them. Gelman, bezusshovno working in the ideological field, including, of course, and thus his work is positive because it provides an opportunity diskursii at the highest semantic level. Unfortunately, in other aspktah we disagree with him.



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Старый 21.06.2013, 05:34 Язык оригинала: Русский       #50
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manna, there is no good or gallery owner, is determined by a list of its artists, te of those with whom he works exclusively, and that only he can buy.
Gallery name or gallery owner in itself does not mean anything, it means a list that is behind the name and the list is usually in the range of ten names. Gelman might say, I will expose 150 artists and 150 other new exhibit. So?
 Political technologies is certainly a plus, but it is positive to the core, to art. And if artists are just suppliers of material for the next politaktsii conceived, it is a minus. Here was a bunch of shares and exhibitions at Perm-so what? where dry residue except blue instead klizmochek domes of Orthodox churches? This is all some techniques of the 1990s, make noise, little brother, make noise.
For other gallery owners I have nothing to say. If Russia is not on the world stage sovriska if in Basel zero after zero values ​​on many of the world fairs that you want to hear? that successful gallery owners we have, but hid?
This is the work of gallery owner-permanent participation at international auctions, the world's fairs. If gallerists no power even to a simple get-together, part of what they have power? If they close their gallery in Moscow and abroad, what you want to hear? Who is to blame that on them 2000000000 got nothing?
I wanted to hear what you have written - "on the other gallery owners I have nothing to say"

Even if you have not heard about other gallery owner it turns out that Gore (ie, our country) - gave birth to a mouse (ie, only one Gelman /gallerist /spin doctor who
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does not understand the art, for his long work gallery owner gave to the world the level of a single artist, had withdrawn to the whistle.
Gelman time only and are not repeatable (and even "noisy") - let then take the rap for everything. Right? You know, and he will calm down.
 
And the silence and the dead with braids (ie "hide" in the lap of the gate of hell Winery) cost.

Do not get kicks from kritikunov only one who does nothing ......

PS: Wow, you even remember the color of klizmochek. And say Gelman "all went to the whistle" <! - ~ 6 ~ -> <! - ~ 1 ~ -> <! - ~ 7 ~ ->
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