Russian Icons - a fake?

[Liza]

At the 17th Conference on the examination in November 2011 , in Moscow on this issue was a report I.L.Buseevoy Davydova , "Icons and forgeries : the 30th anniversary edition V.M.Teteryatnikova ." There are a lot of what was said , for example, that in the 20- 30s in the workshops Grabar specially produced copies of famous Russian icons for sale in the West, particularly Bryagin took part in this.
I do not know whether it's true - but perhaps there are some grounds for such information.

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Сообщение от Liza

specially produced copies of famous Russian icons for sale in the West

Copies of the "well-known Russian icons" from the collection of TG is not a forgery.

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Сообщение от Liza; 1968611"

At the 17th Conference on the examination in November 2011 , in Moscow on this issue was a report I.L.Buseevoy Davydova , "Icons and forgeries : the 30th anniversary edition V.M.Teteryatnikova ".

I have Irina L. in his time a course of lectures.
In general, the question is - fake, copy, later lists - big and not in the format of the forum, I think.

[khmelev]

If you give a copy of the original then this is the most that on there - a fake.

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Сообщение от khmelev; 1968911 '

If you give a copy of the original then this is the most that on there - a fake.

And who gave out copies of the originals?

The fact is that the fanatics, HD is part of the whole array of all icons are works representing different variants of repetitions of the ancient originals.
Today's experts call them "replicas", "list", but the modern meaning of these terms does not always correspond to essentially play the samples in the past.
For example, the active formation of the Old Believers churches and worship houses in Moscow and the emergence of Old Believers in the environment, personal collections led to difitsita icons of the "old rules", which had orders to make up the icons, echoing the style, iconography, traditional techniques of performance and, of course, the external signs of "ancient" .
Such instances are often caught in the collections of famous collectors of ancient icons - in a meeting Ostroukhova, Ryabushinsky Bakhrushina Khanenko Soldatenkova and so on.
As things got in such gatherings - a separate issue.
Briefly: in the 10's. Twentieth century (the heyday of Econom gathering) appears keen interest is the quality of the restoration of ancient pametnikov and the problem began to emerge - there are publications that inform readers about the results of the restoration of icons, it is strongly held idea of ​​the necessity of restoration protocols, and even put some in catalogs began to celebrate " touched the icon restoration, "because the press become the property of scandals nedobrosovestnostnymi actions restorers who, I note, too often been known to collectors and suppliers.

I repeat: the issue is large and complex, not for the format of the forum.

[khmelev]

Collection Christie's auction Hannah sold as a collection of masterpieces from the vaults of the State Tretyakov Gallery

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Сообщение от khmelev; 1969101"

Collection Christie's auction Hannah sold as a collection of masterpieces from the vaults of the State Tretyakov Gallery

This votros to " Christie auction ", I think , rather than the Bolsheviks. No?
Or George Hanna , who for the past 45 years has exhibited his collection of 20 shows, which have been published in more than 40 publications, CPC sold " copies of famous Russian icons " for the originals?
Or they are " originals " were already in America ?