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Old 19-07-2011, 00:04 Original language: Russian        #1
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Painting or Gold ¿that is the question ....

Shakes U.S. will lower the rating.
crisis

we have parliamentary elections in> money will go there ~

where to spend the rest??

Filthy lucre?
or Art

help to understand ....

Gold dull but reliable|the art of the soul but risky
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Art of Gold or ¿ is the question ....

Gold dull but reliable|the art of the soul but risky
Painting or gold?
Never « Do not put all your eggs in one basket » ... and separate the wheat from the chaff.
And in order to minimize risks and avoid possible fraud:
1. Never spend more money than you can afford.
2. Always subject you are interested in the subject of rigorous analysis and do not act at random.
 > > >
Although ... . Even investment level of the least risky, as history shows us , at times quite easy and surprisingly amenable to economic unrest .... >



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Gold prices set a new record, reaching 1.6 thousand dollars per ounce, as investors fear the debt crisis in Europe and the threat of default in the U.S..

Last week the price rose 3%, which has not happened since February 2009, reports Reuters.

"The results of stress tests have not attracted much attention, and investors once again turned his attention to Europe. At such times the price of gold rising, despite a strengthening dollar, "- said an analyst at Saxo Bank Ole Hansen.

Stress test results 90 European banks showed that the eight banks are not strong enough to survive a prolonged recession, and the need to attract 2.5 billion euros of capital. Eurozone ministers will meet on Thursday to discuss the financial stability of the euro area, while the euro meanwhile fell by 0.7 percent against the dollar.

"Investors are increasingly interested in gold as a safe investment as the dollar, pound sterling and the euro against the currencies become cheaper Canada, Australia, Norway and Switzerland," - said General Director of Sector Investment Managers Angelos Damaskos.

Silver prices rose to 39.97 dollars per ounce from 39.27 dollar closed trading on Friday. Over the past two weeks, prices have risen by 15%.

"By the end of the summer we look forward to growing interest in silver, and the reduction ratio of gold /silver. But in 2012, silver can go down in value as the forecast for gold is less favorable, "- the report says BNP Paribas.


Dogel, I think it is too late to rush > (pro gold)
Therefore - buy a painting ..
I can offer watercolor of 1960 with a view of Nizhny Novgorod >




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Old 19-07-2011, 10:03 Original language: Russian        #4
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Dogel, I think it is too late to rush > ( pro gold)
Therefore - buy a painting ..

in 1998 the price of gold was $ 300 in July 2011, $ 1600 , that the price will be in 2020?

With gold is easier to define it is very fast , at a rate of about 5%

But with painting, if very quickly to 30%on sales to date

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Dogel, as it is sung in an opera: "People die for-and-a metal! For Yes-ah metal!"

So invest in iskvo!

PS: for art has not (yet) singing ...



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The gold is easier to define it is very fast , at a rate of about 5%

But with painting, if very quickly to 30%on sales at the moment
"30 %" - still OK, but as it turns out that he bought shit ? Then what to do? A , Dogel?
 When it turns out that this is not no faces, like a stranger nobody Ebardey Gordeevich Kontupaev at leisure dabbled brushes, oil paints.
No, you need a gold to "invest " in a mole , "spend the rest ."
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"Polyus Gold", Russia's largest gold mining company to promise almost triple the output of gold in 2016.

On the eve of the board of directors of the company (whose major shareholder is Russian businessman Mikhail Prokhorov, who owns a 40%stake, and Suleiman Kerimov, who owns 27%of shares) approved the development strategy until 2020.
"An updated strategy - this is another step towards our goal - joining the world's five largest gold companies" - said General Director of "Polyus Gold" German Pikhoya.

In 2010, gold production company "Polyus Gold" was 43 tons. In 2016, the plan is to grow to 115 tons, and in 2020, when at full capacity will be launched Natalka Mining Plant, the production will be more than 137 tons, according to a press release.

Natalka deposit, located in the Magadan region, is Russia's largest and third largest (after the Grasberg deposit in Indonesia and Muruntau in Uzbekistan). Its reserves are about 41 million ounces.
By 2020, it only plans to produce about 1.7 million ounces. In 2010, total production of gold "Polyus Gold" was 1.4 million ounces.
By volume stocks "Polyus Gold" is the third largest after Canada's Barrick Gold and the British Newmont Mining. However, production and profits not only inferior to them.
Gold prices fall so far will not be

Meanwhile, gold prices on world markets has not reduced the second day, reaching a record $ 1,600 an ounce.
Expensive and silver from the beginning of the month ounce rose in price by 20%to 40.84 dollars.
Analysts warn that this is not the limit, and the price of gold could rise to as long as EU authorities do not take decisions on the allocation of the next tranche of financial assistance to Greece.
The European Union will consider helping to Athens on Thursday, July 21.

Repetition of a record price when an ounce of gold was given $ 2,400, you can just wait in case of default on the bonds and the U.S. Bankruptcy Greece. However, if this happens, the previous record price may not do.
According to Sergei Glushkov analyst "Investkafe" gold will continue to rise in price, since investors do not believe in the near future solution to the problems the euro zone, either in a positive trend in oil prices.
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Conclusion - better to invest in gold, preferably in the Soviet (in Turkish and Italian do not have a lot of shit and buy low-grade ..).. no more than 600-650 rubles. for 1 oz ...



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There is no doubt investment in art is associated with an excessively large number of risks , but ... how much it flatters our vanity ! I do not pile up stacks of gold bricks , I'm a man of great taste ( guests a gold bullion can not show again). A show-off . as you know, more money and sweeter than gingerbread. So clearly in art! If you're rolling with a gold, a little sympathetic , and if the rental with art! How much cause for self !



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So clearly in art !
But in the gold " invest " is interesting , fascinating, even poznovatelno .
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no more than 600-650 Soviet rubles. for 1 oz ... (583 fineness ).
Sit yourself and know the local market in slippers and shirt - trenikah alcoholic, "invests ".
work something in the air
Work with some people !
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