Help, please, understand with pictures

[Arianka]

Hello!
Please express your opinion on the two paintings.

Tried to describe them as needed.
1) Do not know the name. 2) A copy of "Children fleeing from the storm"
By. - 1) V. Savic, 2) can not understand.
Materials and Techniques - 1) and 2), oil on canvas
Size - 1) 110-95cm 2) 185-105cm
Creation Time - 1) 1882. 2) or 1871 or 1877.
Status - 1) and 2) breakthroughs, talus, scrapes.
Expert opinion - not available.
Excuse me, please, but the reverse sides of the photo is not yet possible to do, remove them from the wall, I can not, because they are big, I can not keep.
Stamps, birochki - like no.
Origin of pictures - paintings live in our family with pre-revolutionary era. My great-grandfather before the revolution is very keen, it was their lot, now there were only these two.

When looking for information on V. Savic, the Internet only came across the mention of a certain Benjamin Savitch, who had a painting studio in Moscow, the reference dates back to 1890. There are no other artists with this name and are in that time frame could not be found. Perhaps someone can tell on this artist.

For a copy of "children" do not know in which direction to look and whether general, there is something to look for.

And you think a professional painting or so, nothing special.

I should be, grateful for any views.

[ANTIK]

Hello, the picture with the old magnets fun, they certainly are professional but the plot, so that cross all burial portit.Mnogie not want to cross from the grave to purchase and lay out dorogo.Prislushaytes story plays a big picture rol.Vobschem priyatnaya.Bubite sell please let the price.

[Arianka]

Thank you for your opinion. The plot is gloomy, do not argue. I like something about this before did not think, because I see her all my life, and the picture is perceived to me quite casually.

[ANTIK]

Sell please call your price?

[Arianka]

Sell it to me does not want to, but the price did not represent the most was - would be interesting to know how much they might cost.

[ANTIK]

I can offer $ 4000