Kiev-Pechersk Lavra, chromolithograph 1915.

[Nikolay Ivanovich]

Dear forum. The Museum of the Kiev-Pechersk Lavra exposed picture. General view of the Kiev-Pechersk Lavra. Chromolithograph. 1902. Look here http://www.kplavra.kiev.ua/cgi-bin/v...=gallery&lg=ru
I have a picture (chromolithograph) 1915. Also, with an inscription in large letters, "General view of the Kiev-Pechersk Lavra. It is true the letter is almost not visible. Size 74 by 53cm. Published by Saad. Added to my angels in the upper corners, paddle steamer, the river, possibly the first tram on the bridge. Painting has never bent. Material, thick paper. Behind, a light brown on the color. Requires restoration. On the left side there is a strain. State of the photo. I suppose that the green paint is painted trees was not completely dried up when the painting was placed under the glass and stuck to it. The painting is a plan-map with numbered buildings and explaining that, under any number is located. In addition to my paintings and one that in the monastery, and other such Internet is not found. Wondering how much can it cost? Would also like to know your opinion about a picture located in the monastery. Judging by the photo, then it kind of is too rich colors, compared to mine. Do you think it is restored or not? Thank you all.

[Wladzislaw]

In Kiev, U.S. $ 50.

[redbor]

"General view of the Kiev-Pechersk Lavra ', as we know, this panorama has performed Ukrainian artist Zhdaha Ambrose (1855-1927).
 
Chromolithograph with the work published over the years, many printing plants, for example, Printing Kiev-Pechersk Lavra, typography Fesenko in Odessa, etc. ..

[Nikolay Ivanovich]

Thank you. I did not know who the artist. Certainly agree that these cards stamped in large quantities. The question is, how much has come to our time. In fact, the smaller, more valuable. I tried to search through. Requests, "General view of the Kiev-Pechersk Lavra," "Ambrose Zhdaha", "Publisher Saad practically nothing. Many species, but there are none. While lying. Greeted the mention of a plan-map general view of the Kiev-Pechersk Lavra in 1898, albeit without pictures. So I have and impression of the rarity of this work. After all, how many years already exists online, and many dealers, antique shops and stalls, including Kiev, bought paintings and stuff, but really could not find. And if the price of such work in Kiev, $ 50, then where would I buy this in a good condition? And as it is doubtful that Kiev is flooded with such works as the Internet is nothing.

[Fed]

Сообщение от "Nikolay Ivanovich

Yes, and how it's doubtful that Kiev was flooded with such works

Kiev is not inundated with cards and Ukraine started in 1919. But without the problems they can be purchased for $ 150.
And they are liquidity-thing and not just on gifts to officials.

And, in good condition.
This is me about linking to your.

[Nikolay Ivanovich]

Сообщение от Fed

Kiev is not inundated with cards and Ukraine started in 1919. But without the problems they can be purchased for $ 150.
And, in good condition.

I have no doubt that the demand dictates supply. As it was interested in cards with the royal family. Both divorced their lots. And all in good condition. Go to the hammer and you will see. But those that are harder to forge, with a postmark from handwriting who wrote those already harder to forge. There also need to pick up the ink and rubber stamps to understand. Therefore, the vast majority of these cards without stamps and congratulations. The same situation with medals. Lots of remakes. Well do you want? Some of the fake dollars, the boys on trial for what the printer to print money, and what is the map? One copied and print with impunity. And the aging of recipes in an Internet search for a long time is not necessary. The main large number did not immediately push. There should be a little observant and not be found on the tales of the warehouses, robbed libraries, etc. If such Chromolithograph now as I have in the internet is almost not found, but tomorrow they will be offered in certain quantities, it can be said that someone had already finished their production. And if the price drops sharply.

[Fed]

Сообщение от "Nikolay Ivanovich

Some of the fake dollars, the boys on trial for what the printer to print money, and what is the map?

So you can have poddelanaya.

Maps is not identical to sell.
Who held the ancient map in the hands of not very believe that $ 150 an adequate price for the forgery of such complexity.

[redbor]

Сообщение от Nikolay Ivanovich

tried through a search. Requests, "General view of the Kiev-Pechersk Lavra," "Ambrose Zhdaha", "Publisher Saad practically nothing.

Oh yes.
For example:
http://kotlovka.ru/pgalery/displayim...cat=2&pos=1550
http://www.cirota.ru/forum/view.php?...6&order=&pg=38
 (And still is, though sometimes the author's name is distorted.
The artist's name Ambrose A. Zhdaha.)
 and the used books look, there are often sales is likely later reprint.

[Nikolay Ivanovich]

So you can have poddelanaya.

If even explained why counterfeiting in this state? In general, then, this picture has brought one of the forefathers of the family, who walked over 600 km to Kiev. From there, perhaps, and saying, the language to Kiev.

maps is not identical to sell. Who held the ancient map in the hands of not very believe that $ 150 an adequate price for the forgery of such complexity.

It is not excluded that among the counterfeits may be originals, but the price may be inadequate for a fake one card and adequate for the nn-th number.

Oh yes.
For example:
http://kotlovka.ru/pgalery/displayim...cat=2&pos=1550
http://www.cirota.ru/forum/view.php?...6&order=&pg=38

Thank you. I do not find it. Only on the top link site galleries Kotlovka. Understand that they have submitted photographs of paintings, not the picture. At the first top is not the form, and a second form that and the year 1902. Only much she looks like a chromolithograph from a museum laurels. The link I gave.
On the bottom link is the same as a chromolithograph and Kotlovka. And in this picture, in the upper left corner of this message "the glory of God!
Kotlovka.ru "
That is, they just copied the photo from the site Kotlovka. And in the end. There is a picture which is reproduced, but no real pictures. If this snapshot be typed one hundred sites, you will get the impression that the internet is full of such pictures.

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and used books look, there are often sales is likely later reprint.

If the sale is often, I also think that the recent reprinting.

[redbor]

Nikolay Ivanovich, you do what you want?
Rate and sell rare lithograph? I think there are unlikely to help.
 Require special knowledge of lithography and other printing products
This knowledgeable booksellers, galleries of lithographs, for example:
 http://antiquariy.ru/engraving-1-203.html
or similar things: http://rare.org.ua/?cat=8
 http://www.rusbibliophile.ru/Book/Ti...__Putevoditel_
 http://oldkiev.io.ua/album366952_1