Fakes ... Fakes ...

[Toinen]

Сообщение от "Seriy

Yes, I suggest buying live

A friend bought from the artist's family of about 200 works.

Since then, compelled to observe augmented penance sniskuya bread angling fish and gather roots!

[Seriy]

Toinen, all have to know when to stop :-) No need to buy 200, do not have one artist and do not have the latest money ...
IMHO, the problem is that buying something no one .. Here I wandered, wandered through the Art Arena, and did not want to buy anything ... nothing to buy.
That was the Russian avngard early 20 th century. I want to buy Russian works in this contemporary style. Nobody was seriously working. And on Artnau who makes something similar requests to three times more than I do sell at low hudkachestve. And an oil-on Whatman paper for 30 thousand rubles 30x40.
Where expressionist color? who works with color after Buch? napryazhenka too .. no ..
Under such a Matisse, but so poorly ...
The same miserable as souvenirs presented in this topic.

[Vladimir]

Сообщение от "Seriy

That was a Russian avngard early 20 th century.
I want to buy Russian works in this contemporary style.

Why?
Is that for decorative purposes.
The train has left.
Continue unless the "Dialogue with the Russian avant-garde, but they begin to irritate.

[Seriy]

Vladimir, I was not annoying, I like it. The train moved off, and the furniture was left, with her desire to live. Do not have any dialogues. There are style-it can live and work. There are timeless values, color, brushstroke, composition, line. Here Lanskoy you hanging in the office, that he bears the mark of antiquity? No, a good contemporary work. THEOREM operates a modern artist as such, would be an excellent picture. And who's to say that Juan Gris - is an artist a hundred years ago? Hang in the Arena, no one opposed to modern. Do you advocate that artists should sovriska rewrote candle Picasso in 1949, but bad? and the idea is to rewrite the bad, this value is the ratio?
Create your own just as powerful image in this style, and rewriting at least until the end of life.
IMHO, one of the motivations to purchase "gifts" - people want to join the high quality of art. And buying or complete bullshit, or a good job, but unrealistic for the money. To buy good for real.
 I've looked at the last auction, Christie's catalog like (?) On contemporary art-work 80 - 90s of last century. A huge reservoir of great artists (for artists) prices - hundreds of thousands of dollars and no bad art! Good quality, good equipment, excellent size. And not a single Russian artist of the hundreds of lots.
And no one candle Picasso does not overwrite, giving the poor quality of attitude and originality.

[Vladimir]

Сообщение от Seriy

Here Lanskoy you have hanging in the office, that he bears the mark of antiquity? No, a good contemporary work.

Everything has its time. If today will be an artist who works in the style of Lansky, it is unlikely to be successful. I do not know. Appreciated as not only decorative element, and innovation. Otherwise, you can also buy prints - now technology allows you to print on canvas and brush strokes and texture.

I also think it is right to buy the living. If it's "Picasso at the new turn."

[Seriy]

Vladimir, is the concept of genius, which opens new horizons, there is the concept of a good artist. Geniuses are rare and unevenly, and the market (IMHO) is living a good artist. Next Picasso will not be a thousand years.
Here I am one of the artists of the auction do not know, but the auction gain by selling tens of millions. This is normally fed artists, galleries, happy, happy customer, no fakes.
I am opposed to the rusty cans. They are as good as the action has bitten someone thread to attract attention, but then have to produce artistic products with appropriate technology and a certain quality.
Rusted cans and pots with fittings already proved its commercial failure. If the organizers of the show howled, when will commercial success? then what to talk about ...
We have for some reason like to focus on stocks and ignore the creation of a market product. Banks somewhere something was painted on the wall, and then it produces beautiful prints. We have drawn a member on the Palace Bridge, and then what? where hudproduktsiya? that people should buy? Member?

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Vladimir, in Moscow there are artists working in the style of geometric abstraction, but they are far from Lansky (IMHO) is the scenic quality.
It turned out to have better-success would be greater.

Gelman today unveiled its answer to the question why Russian art dealers do not want Russian sovrisk called russian. Type of our wish to be treated as part of the world process, such as, we are your, burzhuinskie! Therefore, trying to distance itself from the Russian, as you trying to distance itself from the Russian avngarda the last century.
And that's why Americans are not trying to distance itself from its Amer abstr expressionism? Calm after Rauschenberg in the same manner he wrote Basquiat (what he faces on top of Rauschenberg pririsovyval is a part). And now the Americans write in their own style and nobody had a wreck and reservists is not going to write off because it is recognizable, it is a business card the U.S., what are they pioneers and strong.
And we have Russian avant-garde, a business card in Russia, do not develop, and add up the rusted cans in a pile and want to love us for it. And that these rusty cans someone else to buy ...
 You are here be touched, that the artist sovriska working with leading galleries, solo part in ARTMANEZH. And this is a violation of all rules. If the gallery works with him, then it should represent it everywhere. And if the artist himself has to promote their art, what is the price of the gallery?

[Artem]

In the near future on TV will be a sequel about the forgery, the participants of the show is almost the same actors. At the arena all the same. I think that's nothing new, this film does not show for the audience, and will not differ greatly from the program's special correspondent. "Art on Tap." Boris Sobolev.





Continuation of the film about a fake, will be aired on. End of February - beginning of March.

[OlegTsi]

1) Auction Michael Spooner Auction, Ottawa, Canada offers a forgery under Sarsuns.
Oil on canvas, 18 x 26.5 inches. Evaluation of 800-1000 dollars Canadian.

2) Ibeevsky seller shit Yua77 offers a fraud by Burliuk.
oil on canvas on cardboard, 9 x 12 inches. Start - $ 1. A list - museum piece ...

This is a wonderful museum quality impressionistic painting by listed artist David Burliuk (1882-1967). The painting is painted in typical for this artist pasty manner. The painting is oil on canvas /board, bears the signature "Burliuk" bottom right. Canvas size is 9 "x 12", with the frame 15 "x 18". The painting is in good condition and is ready to hung on the wall.

[OlegTsi]

Here's a new poddelochka by Mane-Katz.


estimate 3-5 thousand dollars.


Mane Katz (Russian /American, 1894-1962) "Portrait of a Seated Man", gouache and ink on paper, signed lower left "Mane Katz", sight 19-1/2 "x 13".
Glazed, matted and framed.


St.
Charles Gallery: New Orleans, LA, USA

[Artem]

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Note the interesting tex from the author at the beginning of a film about the expert Petrov.
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Here on this McDougall began his "icon of activity".

Makdugalls in December 2009, Lot 25: Icon of St. Alexander Svirsky and St. Princess Olga, the size of 101.5 x 47.5 centimeters, "an extremely rare example of a large church icons" (an extremely rare example of a large church icon); the estimated value of 80-120 thousand pounds Sterling (120,000 - $ 180,000)
          
Irina Shalina goes down as a leading expert McDougall.

Irina Shalina goes down as an expert auction house McDougall, in which it was prepared December 2009 and the recent past, the June auction of works of iconography. She announced Russian Art Media in a telephone interview. We asked her to comment on this decision and to answer questions about the reasons for resignation.
Russian Art Media: What led you to this decision?

Irina Shalina: Icons of people now collect a very special sort: officials, businessmen rushing in search of where to invest money. For them, an icon - no more than a piece of furniture, color spot on the wall.
Since its cooperation with the auction house Makdugalls, has repeatedly stated its intention to become a market leader in the icons, I hope to change it for the better. After all, leadership requires professionalism and ability to not only sell, but also to "educate" the collector, showing an example of how "right" to evaluate the icon. Over time, however, I realized that my efforts to turn the auction into something more than a commercial enterprise, no one needs. The only thing that worries owners - it's profit. RAM: How did you get on Makdugalls?

ISH: New to McDougall, I was invited as a consultant on the first auction of the icons. The auction catalog prepared Mary Pafiti. She later dismissed, but not for icons, but for some other reason. Inflated prices on the icon in Makdugalls largely instigated it will serve and the art market and auction house disservice.

RAM: But with the results of the auction her dismissal was not connected?

ISH: None. Catherine (McDougall - RAM) still thinks that Mary's great to "sell", was completely in place and that it would be nice if it were not there some sort of misunderstanding between them. But with the professionalism of Mary is in no way connected. Generally, the McDougall wildlife staff turnover ...

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So, my husband and I arrived before the first auction to view a collection on the subject of forgery. So many things had to withdraw - as fakes, and the icons almost completely rewritten, with the complete loss of the original painting. Maria this, unfortunately, is not enough. She's an expert on Greek icons. She has a good education, good school, but the Greek icon and an icon of Russian - are two big differences. I am a Greek icon attributing Never want. There's a completely different vehicle, other laws of the restoration, style. True, specialists and experts in the west have not considered it (Pafiti - RAM) is very serious with regard to Greek art ... Mary then we were rescued, cleaned with a fake auction. Another thing is that in the first catalog was a lot more than mediocre things. There's even on the cover of "Patriarch Job" - cropped icon, just a piece, fragment. Price it - three and a half millennia, and it was sold for a fortune (one hundred twenty two thousand dollars - RAM). Just because on the cover. But with this McDougall began his "icon of activity".

RAM: As the chief judge you prepared two auctions - December and had just passed, June ...

ISH: You know, to each his conclusion I treated as a doctor for diagnosis. Their point of view, trying to defend to the last. Incidentally, none of my professional opinion never anyone in Makdugalls not disputed. I believe that every directory should be a serious publication, serve as inputs in the scientific work and not turn into a waste paper with the stroke of a hammer. But there were times when I bend my arms, begging to agree on the dating. So it was with one of the top lots of the December auction, basically - the icon of the 17 th century, but much later "modified". Put it as the 17th, no reservations, so just to sell. At a very high price. I said that to put it under his name not be said that will go away.
RAM: But is not left.

ISH: to persuade. We have to hope for something. We - it's me and my husband Nicholas Zadorozhnyi, who heads a museum of Russian icons in Moscow. He was its director. Luxurious private museum, established by Nicholas at the expense of the owner (Michael Abramov - RAM) in three years. So, after the first failure (in December 2009 - RAM), he proposed to Catherine (McDougall - RAM), so to speak, to take up an auction - to sign a contract with us, on which Nicholas will be fully complete it, pick up the entire auction repertoire, and I'll deal with attribution expertise. Catherine was happy with this proposal, the contract was signed. Although it was clear immediately that it carry out its not going to ...

RAM: What do you mean?

ISH: Before the last, the June auction, I looked through all the things in advance. Some selected for the auction, some not. I come to London. And here it becomes clear that there is a certain batch of icons. Things are not interesting, unnecessarily expensive, which, in my opinion, the auction is not the place. And I am forced to describe them and make a directory. Imagine - three days before the catalog goes to print there is a dozen icons, three of which - forgery, five - at twice the above, three - things are very uncertain! Although we must pay tribute to Catherine McDougall: commercial sense in its incredible. From this a dozen four icons were sold. But it is certainly not in it, and that these sales did not match any level, nor the price.
RAM: Who else is preparing the auction catalog?

ISH: All lots passed through me. Catherine McDougall, without any consultation with me, took office Helen Mack Ildo Jenkins. As she said "make directory". She is the hostess, her right to take anyone. Helen - a very good one. The only problem is that she did in the icons do not understand. In general. I realized it after half an hour after our acquaintance with her. Example: Lot fortieth June catalog. Icon depicting the four evangelists: Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, of which Mark was written, as they say, yesterday. It's obvious. But not for Helen - for her it was a revelation. And so she sits down to "make directory", orders the photos are unknown and for some unknown reason. With me not advised no one, not the illustrations, nor the order of placing things in a directory ...

I have all the powers invested in it to defend here is this phrase in the description of the lot: "the lost fragments of the image of Mark the Evangelist in the restoration was replaced with the new." Although these words would have to be in the title, but not at the end of the text.

RAM: defend, but not completely - in the online version of the "replacement" is not a word.

ISH: You see! But most of it looks the Internet site, rather than a paper catalog!

Moreover, when he came to the layout of the catalog and there, in the description of the fortieth Lot of four paragraphs, there are only two - the first and last. The middle - as usual. Catherine decided to shorten the text absolutely nothing in the icons do not understand. I am also a professional, but never graduated from university with three years work experience. I work with the best publishers in the world! Once invited to a specialist, so surely and listen to somehow.

RAM: Is that bad?

ISH: I, on the one hand, do not want to put everything in a negative light. In the end, Catherine is doing its work, it's her "creativity" and its business. But on the other hand, we are talking about the icons - that's what sad. Of course, I try to restrain myself as I can, do not let the negatives. Although I do not always succeed ...


RAM: What do you think is comparable to the art and business?

ISH: If we - me and Nick - have made it possible to implement our plans, and the auction would have been wonderful, and the opinion of the auction house McDougall would start to change. I am convinced that the auction should be a meeting place for collectors, experts and connoisseurs of the icon. This does not diminish, but rather raise the levels of sales, attract new customers. And, most importantly, help change the view of trade in Russian art.

Interview written by Alexander von Hahn, 06/15/2010

 

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Date: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 Author: Russian Art Partnership