Socialist realism - this is our antiques

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 Forum this site Investing in art is.
Investment. Verstehst du? Ne comprenez-vous? Well, investment ... Do you understand?

Houses on the ruble also investment. Moreover, many of the owners have invested in the art, including the Socialist Realism.

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran

including in Socialist Realism.
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Dig deep, Cyril T., deep ...
To paraphrase:

a lot of trouble, and had to endure the test for Russia's more than a thousand years of existence. Pechenegs tormented her, Kipchaks, Tatars, Poles. Twelve languages ​​descended on her, took Moscow. All suffered, all overcame Russia, would grow stronger and grew from the test. But now, now ... property on the ruble began rapidly losing popularity. This is Russia, of course, did not survive, so she will perish forever.

And with it the Russian art market, of course.

You are from God forecaster, taking into account that all your predictions come true the other way around.

Russian billionaires, wallet wider than the understanding of where to invest money, became the talk of the town even abroad. Several French publications told recently that Vitaly Malkin, a member of the Federation Council of Buryatia, spent 18.6 million euros for the purchase of land abroad, which ... was not intended for construction.

"Russian here, Russian buy" - complains the French weekly L'Express on our rich compatriots. Senator Vitaly Malkin, whose fortune Forbes estimates at $ 600 million, bought the land "in one of those places that only France can boast" - the newspaper Corse Matin. Russian has spent 18.6 million euros for the acquisition of over 500 hectares of land in the municipality of the city of Bonifacio in southern Corsica. But the land located between the beautiful lakes and Balistra Canetti, were not subject to building, said the Corsican diary.

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran ; 2346341"

houses on the ruble is also an investment. Moreover, many of the owners have invested in the art, including in social realism .

Tastes people ruble , very far from the level of Soviet artists , but one thing you pravy.To they bought really like ugly houses on the ruble, with no less ugly interiors will collapse like a house of cards . They do not buy Soviet artists, but what you are. For them at that time did not work without some sharks as Sotheby's and Christie. They did as they said ( a bastard ). They had to hang out for them at this time very active these houses , arranging exciting drama. A Soviet art, not everything of course, but let it be 25-30 percent will always continue to grow , and this is enough to take its rightful place , perhaps the first, with regard to the 20th century.

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Tastes residents ruble, very far from the level of Soviet Artists,

Who bought the painting " Soviet artists "?

Poor residents Tekstilshchikov Pechatnikov Kapotnya and Zhulebino?

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It is clear that the price of Deineko, Gerasimov, reservoir, Nyssa, Pimenov, Labasa and hundreds of other artists of the Soviet period, will only grow.

Even in a brief historical perspective.

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It is clear that the price of Deineko, Gerasimov , reservoir , Nyssa, Pimenov, Labasa and hundreds of other artists of the Soviet period, will only grow.
Even in a brief historical perspective .

I, too, it is clear, but what about those who are here now interested in investing , collecting ? If there are no publications on the subject . Try to find the literature of the Soviet period artists , albums , catalogs. More and more often speak different high areas , with a sneer on the Soviet period , calling it socialist realism. This discourages many investors and kollektsionerov.Potom course will bite your elbows , because the prices are already not the same.

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Then of course will bite your elbows, because the prices are already not the same.

After the 2008 crisis, many have tried to sell items from the socialist realism of their collections, but they are already pre-crisis prices for them were not given.

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This discourages many investors and collectors.

That is what "scares": works by artists interested in social realism until and only in Russia.
And as for " prices Deineko, Gerasimov, reservoir, Nyssa, Pimenov, Labasa and hundreds of other artists of the Soviet period will only grow " I will say simply - a good painting subject to the general law of the world art market: the purchase of works of art (this large finished paintings) - an investment that provides not only the preservation and augmentation of funds invested by 3-5%.
And again, here called the six authors, including, for example, Labasa socialist realist can read only very advanced art historian >, the early work Pimenov and Deineka also fairly conventional social realism, and their work in general very little on the market, let alone the rise in "izyumitelnogo colorist" can broadcast a character not in the subject. And the phrase " dozens and hundreds of other artists of the Soviet period " is too vague, abstract, this definition covers both postavangard and nonconformists (Ilya Kabakov - The most famous Russian artist in the world, for example, left the USSR in in 1988, three years before his death), and belyutintsy and "nine", whose members are already in the beginning. 60 questioned the principles of socialist realism were after "bleeding in the MOSH" almost illegals in Soviet art, then head of the socialist gosudarsva them all deported offered.

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran; 2347161"

After the 2008 crisis, many have tried to sell items from the socialist realism of their collections, but they are already pre-crisis prices for them were not given.

After the crisis subsided, almost everything. I even say that only survived the Soviet period, because the prices were not so high. in fact, they were not moved. Everything else seriously subsided, we can say collapsed, and still continue to fall.

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This is what "scares": works by artists interested in social realism just yet and only in Russia.

Well, it's just a statement, for no good reason. It's like a conversation consisting only of threats, which makes no sense.

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Samvel, reading mantras "podorazhaet social realism, socialist realism podorazhaet, podorazhaet social realism, socialist realism necessarily podorazhaet" can only persuade myself, but the realities of the art market, these shamanistic ritual not work, alas.
Although I assume that someone from repeating the word "paste" in the mouth become sweeter.

I sometimes do the reading, but here are guided only by their own view on these things. For some reason, I'm okay to your assertions, and you call my shaman spells.

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In the city one of the PA may not know, of course, but you're a resident of Moscow, interested in social realism, should know.
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I do not think there is much difference in today's world, for those interested, especially in cities such as P and M. If I'm not mistaken, the last work shown you Baskakov, NN So recently bought his work, a sketch for $ 100 . The fact is that the demand is not there prichem.Dlya collectors very well that all this scare socialist realism, the sellers will talkative. I am sure that the painting of the Soviet era will be in demand, and we have in the world, because it is in its unique.

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After the crisis subsided, almost everything.
I even say that only survived the Soviet period, because the prices were not so high.
in fact, they were not moved.
Everything else seriously subsided, we can say collapsed, and still continue to fall.

That you are now talking about?
What has failed?

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran

And finally:
All the big expensive purchases of social realism and simply painting realistcheskoy Soviet period last year were committed by one player , and almost all of these works can now be seen in his private Museum.

It is a narrow slice of this painting. Very narrow.

But the " social realism " good little fact.