The role of art dealer

[AlexanderG]

Interesno nabliudat 'vyrazeniia tipa "lichnaia naziva" - duh sotsializma vsio eschio zivoi, neistrebim!!!

Povtorius '- tsel' liubogo biznesa - poluchenie pribyli.
Vystavliaia kartiny na prodazu - hudoznik zanimaetsia biznesom. Inache, nado vsio razdavat 'za besplatno, ili hranit' dlia sebia.

[Art_Lyss]

It all and so not true. Because the illusory and uncertain (contracts, artists, dealers).
Just today, one collector told me about the very popular and cool "galereyschitsu" ins and outs of the truth.
I remember how she hid behind a pompous a good artist and trumpeted that contains it, and concluded with him an exclusive contract.
A collector was a longtime friend of the maestro.
The latter told. that due to its "social security" it was barely enough money for food. Although the lady swept away all his paintings zatak, promising to pay later ...
He naturally jumped.
Sad that this pump-reality of our days. Again psychology Bazaar, shoe market, chelnochnichestva. This is incompatible with the art market.
  I'm not going demonises gallery owners. I respect them when they are gallery owners, and they ARE.
And does not justify Designer KONYUKTURSCHIKOV and ambitious amateurs and pull SHOCK.
We must soberly assess the situation and not jump on someone else's niche.

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Art_Lyss, is also now an art agent told me a story about the artist's psycho. Who take this love and trust maniakalno "vparival" svoipikchi agent. Agent bought. Support the poor artist. And the one-hop! I threw an agent! Took 100%payment and run away!
So all is well.

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AlexanderG, personal gain at the artist, not paying the deserved interest Diller. Take advance and run.
Personal gain-dealer to take speculative lease and not sell. For next to nothing to force the artist to sell paintings, and then push them a lot more without paying a percentage of the artist. Do not sell the painting for years, hiding. and then take money for safekeeping. To hand paintings to rent, hiding from the artist. FACTS!

[iosif]

artcol,
I, like Xenia, it seems antithetical to the absence of a treaty.
First, to have some leverage over abusive partner (no matter which one of them - an artist or gallery owner - unscrupulous. Moreover, even without any courts and lawyers the very existence of the contract - the deterrent force of a weak person).
Secondly, make sure a written agreement to avoid conflict of the type "I remember in another way."
Examples of the same crooks on both sides, even I, a novice, I can cite many. And - personally seen, not with the others stories. But why should align with the crooks? If a gallery owner, promoter, agent and artist came to an agreement - lock it and honestly perform.
And another important point: the agreement has a time frame. By the end of their contract can terminate or modify. So no bondage for life on both sides there can not be by definition.

[kozhinart]

Сообщение от AlexanderG

Interesno nabliudat 'vyrazeniia tipa "lichnaia naziva" - duh sotsializma vsio eschio zivoi, neistrebim !!!

Under personal gain, I meant deception, and not receiving a specified profit. For example: agreed, writing job - the money in half and got 1 /20 of the agreed price, with the explanation that the more expensive to sell the job failed, although 8 of work up to this point with successfully sold. Wash, if this is true, stupidity, and if false - profit.

[Zenia]

Сообщение от kozhinart

agreed, writing job, money in half and got 1 /20 of the agreed price, with the explanation that the more expensive to sell the job failed, although 8 of work up to this point successfully prodavalis.Pomoymu, if true, a glupost.a if a lie-profit.

Therefore, the contract needs .... And agreement on a price below which not to sell and in what time period, and where ... and so on ....

Although, of course, always different conditions, and I certainly idealized.

[kozhinart]

I, like Xenia, it seems antithetical to the absence of a treaty.
First, to have some leverage over abusive partner (no matter which one of them - an artist or gallery owner - unscrupulous. Moreover, even without any courts and lawyers the very existence of the contract - the deterrent force of a weak person).

Many artists are not legally literate. Sami sign a contract without understanding its content, is onerous contracts, in my understanding, most often it may terminate the employer odnostoronne.U recruited by law rather uschemlennye.Iu employer many loopholes to curb employed, an example: all the time, delaying the payment of a sufficiently large sum of money .
There is a recent case, someone came to my gallery owners, provide a contract written in his cap: the contract of Reference, I read it, and under it appears that he gives to the work if it podpishet.Ya in amazement turned to a lawyer, I can not understand why, and he read and confirmed my fears ...

[DSF]

artcol: Again, some confusion with the terminology. Art dealer - it's just a trader.

In principle, it is fair comment. But at the moment Russia's art market is still in its infancy and not about some narrow specialization of speech there. We have every person who sells other people's works of art - an art dealer. He and the reaper, and the blacksmith, and the dude igrets. Yes, and then only in large cities. In the provinces, they are almost there. For example, Samara (formerly lived there). Million city. Three galleries. And then, a gallery of them can be called only one. And this gallery sells mostly imported artists, because it really is in the market conditions, and local artists are not satisfied with its pricing policy. Moreover, in people 20 artists whose names are well known to all "provision to citizens, everyone knows who and what can be, and how do. Another man 100 artists, lesser known, covers demand "sredneobespechennyh citizens. The remaining 4 /5 people - poverty, who live from paycheck to paycheck. So where's the art dealer?

iosif: that he was decent, that he was looking and industrious to a clever

This is called - "all 24 of pleasure." Theoretically, all true. But in practice, these artists do not exist. I do not know of. I know smart, but dishonest, - silly, but hardworking, decent, but not prolific, etc. Therefore, if you want to deal with living artists, and even in Russia, we must restrain demand. In particular this applies exclusives. This is a dirty word in Russia, like the word "bondage". At this nor will anyone not teshte illusions. We have not the West. Maybe in the future ...
     Treaty principle, not hurt. But, again, we are always in Russia was based on personal contacts. It is indestructible. See your dealer /artist in the eyes. This should be enough.

[AlexanderG]

U nas s etim (kontrakty) nemnogo prosche: ustnyi kontrakt imeet takuiu ze silu, kak i pis'mennyi.
So vsemi hudoznikami u menia sovershenno odinakovye dogovorionnosti i invoice book vsegda na stole.
Kstati, moi hudozniki daze obschaiutsia mezdu soboi.

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kozhinart, Art_Lyss

To o chiom vy govorite - nazyvaetsia vorovstvo! Lichnaia naziva - sotsialisticheskii termin i termin OBHSS. Ia vsegda poluchal, poluchaiu i budu poluchat ' "lichnuiu nazivu". Bolee togo ia etim gorzus', t.k. sam vedu svoio delo.

[Ludmila]

When there are people who can work together and understand each other,
their joint work brings good results (including the cash equivalent)
A mopped professional failure and lies partners
unpleasant, and a gallery owner and artist. The agreement is not superfluous, at least defines the basic provisions of the target. To be able to negotiate, plan to work together, be sensitive to the situation and priniimat solutions will not hurt anyone.
Work, finding strength and skill, after all, it is important for the artist and gallery owner.

[iosif]

Сообщение от DSF

This is called - "all 24 of pleasure." Theoretically, all true. But in practice, these artists do not exist. I do not know of.
... Therefore, if you want to deal with living artists, and even in Russia, we must restrain demand. In particular this applies exclusives. This is a dirty word in Russia, like the word "bondage". At this nor will anyone not teshte illusions. We have not the West. Maybe in the future ...

There is no perfect art, it is true (as well as ideal dealers). But to find the corresponding listed my requirements - it can. I, at least, found. (Although two of the four cases - have found me, so that, after all, to be fair, competent promotional works not only on the artist, but also on the dealer). Works successfully.
In all there life? I do not know. Not sure. But until we do need each other. Again - in accordance with our contract.

Now about exclusive. I already wrote that it is not bondage, as limited time frame. But, of course, this is a serious decision.
However, no exclusives, I just will not engage in a serious promotion of the artist - why spend your own money on someone else's business? By the way, and without exclusives can work together, the same commission, for example. But no comprehensive program promotions.