Razyskivayu of Mikhail Roginsky

[LCR]

Well, what I do now, in court they serve?
On Monday I will call my lawyer, that he at least put a stop to this industrial production!

[fross]

And even better catch in the act It is interesting to know who this "wise guy" - even before the press thought of.

[LCR]

So you want to say he was the victim of his perfectionism (I will have to be careful): if he did not put the press to prove that the painting - a fake, it would be much harder.
But the stamp of the Ministry of Culture USSR in the picture, which could not be written to 1995 - is a donkey's ears of the king Midas.
Instead of repeating itself "oatmeal butter will not spoil, it was necessary to him to remember another adage -" The best - the enemy of good, no, but what a moron!

[fross]

: He must have copied the 90's (hence the plot and signature), but it was not very much and he decided to reinforce the seal of the USSR. Correct tried And really figure that one with another is not very similar - not shmog. If he honors our forum - it may "tumble". Must urgently catch!: Mad:

[Nik]

Сообщение от Eugene

associate the name Roginskaya counterfeiting is no sense

Eugene, as well as it can damage the artist? It seemed, on the contrary, if the artist starts to falsify, then, is the recognition of its importance and how to be even more advertising. And the value of his works, in my opinion, from this should only increase. Am I wrong?

[LCR]

I also think, as Nick.
And besides, I think, you need to publish fake, that they can be fused to some neskushennomu buyer.

[Vladimir]

Сообщение от fross

need to wait for new work from the same "author" and likely again on eBay. This auction has already been lawsuits http://www.cnews.ru/news/top/index.s...8/07/

Ebay - it's not profile aukitsion on art in general is not quite an auction in the usual sense, but most online "flea market" where you can buy everything: from a used car to a ballpoint pen and a strange "life." Anyone who buys it, and so understands what is involved in very risky lottery. Another question - how to stop the flow and make life difficult poddelschikam? Here I do not soglsen with Eugene that you can not expose them to specific devices, then there are moments where poddelschiki pierced. Instead their main enemy - education. The more people will know about techniques, about the particular periods Roginsky, the less people will fall for bullshit. But of course a reason to support fund needed - this is the tool that makes the market relatively safe. IMHO. The idea of court with eBay auctions IMHO deadlock, they certainly have that effect on the disclaimer prescribed. And I need to have qwerty ask the opinion that to do ...

[Vladimir]

Сообщение от Eugene

It is naive ..
Fraudsters professionals themselves who want to enlighten and teach the way they would be profitable, given the rate (30-50t.evr for now)

Well, try to convince by example. Anatoly T. Zverev. Artist from God. Unparalleled sense of color, impulsimvny smear flourish. Swindlers think poddeelat easily. The result - a huge amount of falshakov circulation, pierced thousands of buyers. That inexperienced buyers. They have nowhere to learn how to distinguish even a clumsy forgery. Meanwhile, experienced collectors know the basic faulty techniques used poddelschikami (eg, illiterate fill the background). Knowledge of these techniques allows to "cut off" gross falsification of time. And if they know it will be knocked out of the economic ground under the feet of traders fakes. So what can fight information. The fewer people becoming victims of fraud - the better.

[dedulya37]

Сообщение от LCR

picture was placed on Ebay in the U.S., a preliminary assessment of 2000-3000 dollars, sold for $ 2000 - these prices long gone, but it does not matter, everything happens

This auction completely LinkBacks what to put on their pages. There are and "right" thing.
"Boss" work, or know, or pretends not to know that the work of "wrong", so he hedged stating "Att.", Which means "probably belongs to a"=Attributed to - engl.
Therefore, the price is so small.

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Сообщение от LCR

seal of the Ministry of Culture, permitting it to export, that is, in principle, this should have meant that the film was written before our departure in 1978, and in any case not later than 1993 though same?
Print looks quite new, it is extremely clear, and - I compared with printing on one of the works that we were taken, - it is not handwritten or price fee, no date, in general, it does not print, and Filkin charter.

As mentioned in the forum, if you work over 50 years, she is expert of the Ministry kudtury, if younger, then an export commission.
If you just exported a lot of work, the print on the back and could not fill, it remained "virgin" was only a stamp, as in this case.

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Сообщение от LCR

Now the main thing - style. Frankly, I do not remember this picture, although in principle know all of my husband.

But this is really the most important thing! I have already talked about this. When the work is stored in the family, or when you just deal with them, you begin to feel the energy of the artist, there is a feeling inside, which allows to determine the "correctness" of work. Feel style, smear, "handwriting" of the artist, if you wish.

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Сообщение от LCR

landscape on it is absolutely identical, and is written with the same angle.
But that's the character that I was so embarrassed at my picture there!
Gee, now I'm absolutely convinced that this is - a fake!

Normal case. These masters of fakes do not usually delve into the artist's creativity, his main thing to do "like", so a fake sketch for a painting can be dated a few years later than the painting itself is written that the heirs of a cause for disgust. So it is with the signature.
Accepted that the work should be signed, they signed Aby as, without going into the signature. And for a sample, usually taken already recognizable in the world of art the artist's signature.

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Сообщение от LCR

It remains the original question: what to do?
After all, I do not know, nor who put it up for auction, no one bought it.

The first thing to do - to begin to fix these fake that they do not go "in a circle." I, for example, different people have shown the same falshaki several times. And I scored them for more than forty pieces. Then, if necessary, they can be put on display to poddelschiki know that there are people who monitor the emergence falshakov and cherish the reputation of the artist.
It is a pity that the buyer who bought the work, but he himself is guilty, it was possible, in the end, go to the heirs and firmly convinced of the correctness of work. Well, the money that he lost, not so great. When he would resell the work, he would know.

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Сообщение от fross

need to wait for new works from the same "author" and likely again on eBay

You are absolutely right, as soon as the first falshak sold on e-Bay, there immediately appears another "grand piano in the bushes, but for a different price.

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Сообщение от LCR

Well, what I do now, in court they serve?

Just be patient, type more facts. That's when the whole collection, then go ahead! In court! Especially if you can find printed posters or anything else.

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Сообщение от Eugene

Yes, this topic is better discussed in private correspondence .. it is an open forum and to link the name Roginskaya counterfeiting is no sense (a legacy of his not so big and you can always consult with you, if that it will fall .).

I absolutely agree with this statement!

[Nik]

Have disappeared messages Eugene, where he justifies the harm from disclosure to the public details of the artist's style and methods of work (Eugene, you have deleted them yourself? Vain.) But his arguments were convincing, I agree with him. Do not reveal all the secrets, or forgery are better and they will be more difficult to identify.