How to create and develop the infrastructure of art?

[Pavel]

Сообщение от manna

In my view, we can not leave aside the culture (and art as part of the culture) and only discuss the market. Developing a culture formiruesh buyers (roughly speaking). On that anyone spends money (after the satisfaction of basic needs)? In fact, from what gets the pleasure. As long as people will get more pleasure from a new TV (because it is the last generation, etc.). they will buy more and more new TVs or sofas.
So, by and large, have to teach (teach) to enjoy the arts since childhood. And this is the problem of school (when it comes to shir.nar. Masses). Delve into the issues Wed Education does not even want to. There's no time for culture.

An example. The child learns to friends (1st class) in a private school. Wednesday - Day of Museums (various). So, before the holidays, he muchiet parents in what the museum to go! We have a very different picture, we will try to catch up on their own.
 
If you take the short-term prospects, according to (largely) with the

Since the possession of a fashionable thing for someone fun, too.
 
Whose money? It turns out that gosudarstvennye.T.k. private - local. Or should this particular lot, then it will (not local) result. But there is one thing, the absence of this notorious market sovriska. That is, lack of buyers. No mat. impact - not a lot of private.

An excerpt from an interview with Natalia Nesterova (about five years ago)


Ideally, do not just museums, and places for leisure activities parents and children. Following the example of the Munich Polytechnic. The child just could not take away. There is ground floor given over to a super children's room. Where children can play, explore many of the phenomena. Plus, the place where you can feed a child. Several. photos, this basement. The museum itself is also great. Not quite on topic, but still.

Dear Mann! Art is something more serious than a means of raising and educating children. It is quite another. Art is an achievement, is that better than anyone. Museum is a collection of outstanding achievements, works, which are huge money just because so many want to have these works. Your arguments are clear, you want your children to be cultured and educated, but it is the task of the school. There, specialists with knowledge of child psychology, they have to trust the education of children.

[Maskit]

,, Art belongs to collectors, the sick and other perverts, masturbator, the infirm, detachment from zhizni.Iskusstvo treat life as a free to love, Eugene Vakhtangov-artist, member of kor.RAH,

[artcol]

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, Art belongs to collectors, the sick and other perverts, masturbator, the infirm, detachment from zhizni.Iskusstvo treat life as a free to love, Eugene Vakhtangov-artist, member of kor.RAH,

Love - a wonderful moment, it comes and goes, and forever free.


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[Pavel]

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Love - a wonderful moment, it comes and goes, and forever free.


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Pkazhite Vakhtangov work with him and all will become clear.

[манна]

Сообщение от Pavel

Pkazhite Vakhtangov work with him and everything will become clear.

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Сообщение от Pavel

Dear Mann ! Art is something more serious than a means of raising and educating children . It is quite another. Art is an achievement, is that better than anyone. Museum is a collection of outstanding achievements , works, which are huge money just because that many people want to have these works. Your arguments are clear , you want your children to be cultured and educated, but it is the task of the school. There, specialists with knowledge of child psychology, they have to trust the education of children .

Pavel, the main point of my post was somewhat different : <! - ~ 1 ~ ->. Of course art is something more serious than Wed-in child-rearing. However , on the other hand , parenting is something more serious than an art. I mean if we all want to become more of these people who " want to have these works ," and not only these , have a desire to instill in childhood.

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I mean if we all want to become more of these people who "want to have these works," and not only these, have a desire to instill in childhood.

Yes, as the need to read or go to taetr.

[iside]

Сообщение от manna ; 2070321 "

Of course art is something more serious than Wed-in child-rearing. However , on the other hand , parenting is something more serious than an art. I mean if we all want to become more of these people who " want to have these works ," and not only these , have a desire to instill in childhood.

When were the first days of VIP ART FAIR , I sat and watched images , the son came and sat beside him and says that it is that nonsense ? ( I just watched the conceptual work ) I say , this is a work of art . He was - and is it an art , not paintings and sculptures ? I - the art is different, sometimes it's ideas and understand them is not easy , but necessary. It is - why do you want? I - it's like a game , if you solve the riddle that was going to say in his work the artist , then you know something about yourself and the world in which you live, what you did not know before . He - Oh, that's interesting! I - of course , it is interesting to watch will be with me ? He - yes, of course I will!

[Art-Galera]

Сообщение от Pavel

Art is something more serious than a means of raising and educating children. It is quite another. Art is an achievement, is that better than anyone. .. Your arguments are clear - you want your children to be cultured and educated, but it is the task of the school. There, specialists with knowledge of child psychology, they have to trust the education of children.

Pavel, my dear fellow, you are eco sights on the definition of art ... ... and even our children, and all - it's our problem ... school (!??) ... that they were civilized ... and even more so, that's about the fact that only the professionals in our schools ... and should be trusted ... Well this, I'm sorry too ...

You know, I think there are many examples. But I'm closer to the subject will try. Your first (sorry, I mean on this topic) article (Leo Tolstoy our) «What is Art?" Almost immediately the first example and just of a boy, who experienced fear after a meeting with the wolf later relates in such a way that the experiment, infecting the audience, makes them feel in danger, and that the boy felt. And this is a perfect example of a work of art, according to Tolstoy. Well, this example illustrates his thesis that "art should create a certain emotional connection between artist and audience that" infects "the viewer. This aesthetic concept led to the expansion of Tolstoy's criteria is a work of art. He believes that the concept of art embraces all human activities" .

Maybe I got a little sloppy (Mann and others continue to have spoken more accurately), but think about our children and their perceptions of culture and art in general, and "infect" in all possible ways of their art - it is certainly not the task of the school and our wonderful education system ...

[Pavel]

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Pavel, my dear fellow, you are eco sights on the definition of art ... ... and even our children, and all - it's our problem ... school (!??) ... that they were civilized ... and even more so, that's about the fact that only the professionals in our schools ... and should be trusted ... Well this, I'm sorry too ...

You know, I think there are many examples. But I'm closer to the subject will try. Your first (sorry, I mean on this topic) article (Leo Tolstoy our) «What is Art?" Almost immediately the first example and just of a boy, who experienced fear after a meeting with the wolf later relates in such a way that the experiment, infecting the audience, makes them feel in danger, and that the boy felt. And this is a perfect example of a work of art, according to Tolstoy. Well, this example illustrates his thesis that "art should create a certain emotional connection between artist and audience that" infects "the viewer. This aesthetic concept led to the expansion of Tolstoy's criteria is a work of art. He believes that the concept of art embraces all human activities" .

Maybe I got a little sloppy (Mann and others continue to have spoken more accurately), but think about our children and their perceptions of culture and art in general, and "infect" in all possible ways of their art - it is certainly not the task of the school and our wonderful education system ...

That the school in which I was giving a good basis for the understanding of art because it gave the right direction in life.

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That the school in which I was giving a good basis for the understanding of art because it gave the right direction in life.

Just wanted to say: of the more visible.
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