The process for the exhibition "Forbidden Art 2006" is nearing completion

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Сообщение от "Kish 1184011

Let Samodurov himself tyrant. He goes well)

I do not like the banter on the man who under investigation for 3 years and which, perhaps, on Monday will make a guilty verdict.
I do not like and support you in this banter, I will not.
I'm on another occasion immediately clear. Then.

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ROC against the prison for the organizers of the "Forbidden Art»

MOSCOW, July 6. ROC against the prison for the organizers of the exhibition "Forbidden Art 2006". This was stated on the air "Echo of Moscow" the spokesperson of the Patriarch of Moscow and All Russia, the Russian Orthodox Church (ROC) Father Vladimir Vigilyansky.

According to him, the desire to condemn the prosecution of Andrei Erofeev and Yuri Samodurov to three years was "excessive".

"Requirements for the prosecutor to me seems excessive for our society, unreasonable and perhaps even harmful. The Church has always called for mercy for the fallen, for leniency, mercy, "- said Vigilyansky.

Earlier, the head of the Ministry of Culture Minister Alexander Avdeev expressed the view that Andrei Erofeev and Yuri Samodurov should not be convicted on criminal charges of inciting religious hatred. In connection with the organization and conduct in March 2007 at the Centre. Sakharov's exhibition "Forbidden Art 2006" was prosecuted for 282 of the Criminal Code (incitement of hatred or hostility).

http://www.rosbalt.ru/2010/07/06/751166.html

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy

I do not like the banter on the man who under investigation for 3 years and which may, on Monday will make a guilty verdict.

Cyril, they violated the law or not? Protection do they have? Support is? I do not understand - what's the point to whine and demand for a separate relationship, as artists?

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy

Then.

Then - has already arrived.
http://pioneer-lj.livejournal.com/1359597.html

[Konstantin]

Yesterday, standing in a traffic jam on Volgogradke and overheard a piece of speech Novodvorskaya on the radio (do not take it seriously, my aunt clever, but stupid). And just in the subject, asked her about this process. A disconcerted him, bring him not as an argument, but as an example of another interpretation of the same event in different ways.

V. Novodvorskaya: These believers, Ogloyed, called oryasiny with batons to Christianity are irrelevant. They do not even understand the meaning of the exhibition of the first and second point of the exhibition, because it is not taught at the Faculty of Arts, nothing about the painting did not know and do not realize that the first and second show was in defense of Christianity. The first - to protect himself from the vulgar and primitive interpretations from the outside, a Byzantine reading. A second show, sorry, this picture of 70-ies, paintings that are not posted, because of the artists who lost their privileges. These paintings were not directed against Christianity, but in defense of Christianity from the CPSU. This is absurd.

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Because these artists were uncensored at the Twenties, that is held somewhere in the basement of the exhibition officially suffered various persecutions, and now they are again being driven, because it is unable to understand what is depicted in their paintings.

E. GEVORKYAN: Here you are asked to clarify: "And what you believe and what to do when" your mind is seething insulted "?

B. Novodvorskaya: I know too well the joint work of Jesus Christ, who was not at all boring, and was cheerful young intellectuals, and least of all someone who at least once in their lives read the Gospel, will cling to the artists for their work. Goya and the Inquisition to the fire did not send for the "Caprichos". And Michelangelo, among other things, painted the Sistine Chapel, and not in prison. Well, now these so-called believers who have not read the gospel, but condemn, I would be close to the church did not let. I would have them excommunicated. In place of their confessors, of all those involved in this matter, and I read it, they'll refer not so much in God, but on Soviet history and Soviet people and to insult the Soviet tradition, so I would have these people excommunicated immediately. I do not want them to belong to one denomination. That is, I hope that the sentence would take into account all this. Because there is already Marat Gelman, too indignant, though his opposition did not call. There will be a wild scene at the level of art and artists around the world. In Russia will not be carting exhibitions, Russian exhibitions will not be allowed anywhere abroad. This is a very big trouble if the artists ... there are, however, there is one artist who is trying to understand what to plant - it is, incidentally, wrote in a spirit of Glazunov, and it is not clear why they were just for her trailers. If the art director and a former Sakharov Center will sit for the fact that they held an art exhibition. That is, Russia does not clear up troubles. Therefore, in light of statements the Minister of Culture, and we have ministers of culture did not express an opinion, I hope they do it later on the brakes.

That's it.
I urge everyone who wants to comment on this view are not pushed into politics and cliches like: "sent by the liberals," "dashing the 90th" and so on.
Let's discuss the very idea, logical, whether such a distinctive look, or an attempt to wriggle out of it?

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The local patrons present autocratically-feesbeshno-Orthodox ... fits:

They do not even understand the meaning of the exhibition of the first and second point of the exhibition, because it is not taught at the Faculty of Arts, nothing about the painting did not know and do not realize that the first and second show was in support of Christianity.

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Сообщение от Konstantin

Let's discuss the very idea, logical, whether such a distinctive look, or an attempt to wriggle out of it?

And where there is logic? Passions boil - yes, but logic, analysis, etc. do not see.

Shl Note that for her there, by definition, can not be: the stands, he - he operates on emotion rather than logic. "Our beat!" Or "Goats, tuppppye!"

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Сообщение от Konstantin

"mishandled liberals"

Tuk, they also train local all Been here "Lenin was right. The brain of the nation - it is not the intellectuals, TB liberal.

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And why Cyril edited Constantine?

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Cyril Syzranskiy, I removed one word from your proposal, or is about to begin another squabble is not on the topic.
Yet if we return to the essence of expression. These exhibitions: banter for banter or the protection of religion?
My opinion is that the banter for banter (shock, shock) to attract attention to give us something.
Protection of religion here is the same as muck (crap) in the entrance to protect the purity. This is purely my opinion, is ready to deliberate.

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Сообщение от Sima

And why Cyril edited by Constantine? Or Cyril split personality.

Because it Konstantin have not liked it, I think the second part of my message.
What is strange for me. And it is extremely unpleasant, because there was nothing that would give rise to Turkey editing my text.
Well all right ...
God will forgive.