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Old 16-12-2009, 01:44 Original language: Russian        #1
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Again, the information from a conversation with the dealer: for any manufacturer always have 2 lines - pro and amateur. Expensive, high-quality and cheap, not very.
There it was on dry pigments.
Whiting (dry powder of titanium oxide) is very happy! I mix them directly on a glass palette, palette knife, very convenient to add in the paint, in which a lot of oil ...
And found that the bulk pigments can be very expensive (100-150 gr. Jars) ... More expensive than paint ...



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In the speech was about dry pigments.
Whiting (dry powder of titanium oxide) is very happy! I mix them directly on a glass palette, palette knife, very convenient to add in the paint, in which a lot of oil ...
And found that the bulk pigments can be very expensive (100-150 gr. Jars) ... More expensive than paint ...
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In the entire history of painting artists used about 100 pigments.
We can say that the entire history of painting technology is to fight for cheaper blue pigments, because they have always been insanely expensive .. The most expensive was ultramarine blue pigment, extracted from lapis lazuli. Gram ultramarine cost equaled gram of gold.
Today, the company Kremers pigment offers the most expensive ultramarine from lapis lazuli from Badakhshan price of 20 euros per kilo tons.
The materials of the seminar Examination beautiful works of art.



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The number of pigments on the market is very limited. It's like medicine - a lot of names, and existing substance-times, and two's all.
The road from a low-cost line only sometimes different type of pigment-the same cadmium, which budget lines is replaced by synthetics, although many companies and cadmium-cobalt generally excluded from them and an expensive line of synthetics. Basically, the economy worse line-mill, less dye, thinner, simpler packaging, and the pigment is the same, from the same barrel as in the road line.
Some pigments are cheap and there is no point in buying expensive-ocher, Mars - iron oxide pigments, chromium oxide, all of it is the same, do not see the slightest difference. And there is the same as magenta, pink pigment in the budget lines should lightfastness 1 stars, while the expensive product of 3 stars.
Personally, I did try that-t e Kohler buy some expensive, some - cheap. While the 3 star organic pigments believe weak.
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The number of pigments on the market is very limited. It's like medicine - a lot of names, and existing substance-times, and two's all.
The road from a low-cost line only sometimes different type of pigment-the same cadmium, which budget lines is replaced by synthetics, although many companies and cadmium-cobalt generally excluded from them and an expensive line of synthetics. Basically, the economy worse line-mill, less dye, thinner, simpler packaging, and the pigment is the same, from the same barrel as in the road line.
Some pigments are cheap and there is no point in buying expensive-ocher, Mars - iron oxide pigments, chromium oxide, all of it is the same, do not see the slightest difference. And there is the same as magenta, pink pigment in the budget lines should lightfastness 1 stars, while the expensive product of 3 stars.
Personally, I did try that-t e Kohler buy some expensive, some - cheap. Although 3 star organic pigments believe weak.
I do tyubikovye paint only pleners leave ...
The trend in the transition to a powder (undiluted) pigment becomes dominant .. All of these "gadgets" catalog for grinding paints (a piece of glass for 50 pounds and a flat pestle AOR 20) probably intended for mass production ... I'm fine palette knife provided the game, consistency like much more. and the balance (if left), in flat cans with tight lid (from a cosmetics) shift. By the way, government is much more flexible spatula and remove the paint with a palette of glass is very clean, without a trace .. advise!



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NATA NOVA, Moscow (I think in YuKey), you can buy clear plastic cans 50-100-150 ml in enterprises, their produce for the needs of pharmacies and others. They cost a penny, the only thing we have to take a box. In Moscow it is 200 pieces. I picked-happy as an elephant.
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NATA NOVA, Moscow (I think in YuKey), you can buy clear plastic cans 50-100-150 ml in enterprises, their produce for the needs of pharmacies and others. They cost a penny, the only thing we have to take a box. In Moscow it is 200 pieces. I picked-happy as an elephant.
I have had such a couple of years ago (there is) the diameter of the lid centimeters 5. I twist off the lid badly for some reason .. I like the big, tight and, most importantly, easy to twist off the lid!

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For sewer 100 mm in diameter. And have 300.
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NATA NOVA, on the pipe link to you. U jars and throat of about 4 cm, T e in such and fasuyut acrylic and gouache.
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NATA NOVA, on the pipe link to you. U jars and throat of about 4 cm, T e in such and fasuyut acrylic and gouache.
I was in the form of information storage in a roll about 30cm in diameter .. (but not the pipes ..)



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I do not remember .. but here in the forum, such as confirmed in this topic, see earlier.
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