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was replaced by anger at the mercy

Why did the Soviet cliches, just a sense of humor Vorobyov.
And about Masterkova he said in Moscow News as the best (along with Schwartzman), the artist of his generation.
What "Soviet stamps? Wake up, sir!

As for humor Valentin Vorobiev, not judge, you know better. Still, this kind of humor, in my opinion, a specific (perhaps this was precisely to your appropriate adjective "Soviet"). To cite one example:
In the year 94-95 I received from him at his home address a letter in which he carefully explained to me that the other creator, known in Russian-Parisian circles of intellectuals under the pseudonym of an elegant Stout, a scoundrel and villain, because he also stole Vorob'eva some technique, or borrowed money and did not return, in general, did something terrible, and therefore I should immediately dismiss his son from his company. In the case described a twenty-son Tolstoy is absolutely dependent on this work - and not to die of hunger, and to obtain a French residence permit - Mr. Ranzher will not lie to get a piece of paper is very difficult. In addition, the child of divorced parents, he never lived with his father, and therefore could not personally use any stolen money Vorobyov, nor uvorovannoy technique, because to draw too, had no relationship.
Then I remember, called Mr. Vorobyov, to tell him that he continue to receive mail from him the above described contents do not want to, but that he replied: "What's the matter?" I do not like - you can not read! ".
And in general, see-ka, it turns out that you are absolutely right - indeed, stand-up comedian



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I propose to return to art!



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Старый 18.09.2009, 12:48 Язык оригинала: Русский       #3
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In the described case of a twenty-son Tolstoy is absolutely dependent on this work - and not to die of hunger, and to obtain a French residence permit - Mr. Ranzher will not lie
And the pope, a Frenchman thick, could not feed him, lest he croaked from hunger?
Then, indeed, a scoundrel and a rascal.



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And my father, a Frenchman thick, could not feed him, lest he croaked from hunger?
Then, indeed, a scoundrel and a blackguard.
In my opinion, it is called, with the blame on others: shy:
That is according to you, Mr. Ranzher son Volodya should have been denounced by Vorobyov bastard urgent drive to work - on his father's software?
Some painfully Soviet approach to the denunciation (and to a dependency), you can not find?

Kirill: Yes, fat - it Kotlyarov.



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urgent drive to work - on his father's support?
I would drive the opposite of his: with dependent-on work. : D



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Старый 18.09.2009, 14:52 Язык оригинала: Русский       #6
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I think it is called, with the blame on others
That is according to you, Mr. Ranzher son Volodya should have been denounced by Vorobyov bastard urgent drive to work - on his father's software?
Some painfully Soviet approach to the denunciation (and to a dependency), you can not find?
Admission, which you use, the logic is called the substitution thesis.

Staying in the figures of speech used by you, will answer:
In my opinion, the pope had to feed the unfortunate son.
And only then take the care of relatives of his mother.

Epithet attached to the selected artist Vorob'eva, very many people use the name of your client.

I certainly understand the background of your somewhat exaggerated emotions, but still, I think, in the interest of truth should not be exaggerated, because you can achieve the opposite effect.



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Admission of that you use, the logic is called the substitution thesis.

Staying in the figures of speech used by you, will answer:
In my opinion, the pope had to feed the unfortunate son.
And only then take the care of relatives of his mother.

Epithet attached to the selected artist Vorob'eva, very many people use the name of your client.

I certainly understand the background of your somewhat exaggerated emotions, but still, I think, in the interest of truth should not be exaggerated, because you can achieve the opposite effect.
The initiator of this technique were made by you, Mr. Ranzher.
I wrote that the employer is a shame to write denunciations of the children of their enemies (generally ashamed to write denunciations), trying to deprive them of their livelihood, you have expressed their disapproval of the behavior onogo enemy, the human quality of which, whatever they were discussing here is not expected (I'm more or less agree with you cited "many", but this is so, in brackets, as the case is not entirely true).

The phrase about "family mother" son Kotlyarova I just do not understand. Mama Sasha I knew a little, a very worthy woman, but no family ties between us is not observed. At work, I Sasha, imagine, took quite unaware that he was the son Kotlyarova, with whom I studied for 5 years at MSU, but at the moment is no longer communicating.

As for motive, must confess, again, it did not understand, but the admonition contained in your final sentence, I think to take note, too painful, it sounds threatening



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well known in the Russian-Parisian circles, intellectuals, under the pseudonym of an elegant fat,
For example, I know him on film but only for "Mulet".
But 5 years ago was his exhibition in Moscow, but I was not on it.
This is Vladimir Kotlyarov?
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What "Soviet stamps? Wake up, sir!

As for humor Valentin Vorobiev, not judge, you know better. Still, this kind of humor, in my opinion, a specific (perhaps this was precisely to your appropriate adjective "Soviet"). To cite one example:
In the year 94-95 I received from him at his home address a letter in which he carefully explained to me that the other creator, known in Russian-Parisian circles of intellectuals under the pseudonym of an elegant Stout, a scoundrel and villain, because he also stole Vorob'eva some technique, or borrowed money and did not return, in general, did something terrible, and therefore I should immediately dismiss his son from his company. In the case described a twenty-son Tolstoy is absolutely dependent on this work - and not to die of hunger, and to obtain a French residence permit - Mr. Ranzher will not lie to get a piece of paper is very difficult. In addition, the child of divorced parents, he never lived with his father, and therefore could not personally use any stolen money Vorobyov, nor uvorovannoy technique, because to draw too, had no relationship.
Then I remember, called Mr. Vorobyov, to tell him that he continue to receive mail from him the above described contents do not want to, but that he replied: "What's the matter?" I do not like - you can not read! ".
And in general, see-ka, it turns out that you are absolutely right - indeed, humorist
That's the beauty of the Russian-Parisian company that is only there as a reserve, Moscow remained a wonderful lifestyle 60s - '70s, with all the conspiracies, booze, denunciations and gossip - all that was brought to light in his books Vorobiev . Episode Volodya Tolstoy, which includes sending letters to mutual friends, he has devoted a separate chapter - since they seem to be reconciled.



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