Tell me on Krasnopevtsev

[fross]

But the risk of course, but on the other side and bet funny. And if all is he? Winnings can be 1:200! And the inner voice because of the proximity to Rabin?

[Admin]

No, Jen, well, different happens. Sam did not know a real case where the painting was sold on the cheap as forgery, but then it turns real. And talking about the paintings promoted artists who were worth more than money. At the auction because the experts - not gods, too, are wrong quite often.

[SergeiSK]

Originally Posted by Eugene

How did you get that idea? Purchase paintings at auction (even average) is an overpayment of at least 2 times (if the picture is not fufel). If a picture is cheap as you write to 1:200 (from the actual price), it is 100%fake, even to discuss the meaning of no.
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I'm usually in debates about art and all the nuances surrounding him motivated only by their personal experiences. From my work bought at auction from Canada to Israel, from Britain to Sweden, 30-40%percent were sold to work or not yet sold, but have the potential 1:200, 1:300 or even 1:500. So this is nothing strange there. Strange judged on the basis only of its starting price. There have been many cases where the final price with the initial estimate was increased to 500-700 $ 20000-25000 $ and more. And this auction. These all add izdezhki and mark-owner to sell the work in Russia.
In order to make such conclusions should be at least at least once independently participate in the auction, as written in the open and sometimes very controversial sources is not the truth.

[SergeiSK]

Eugene,
Everything is possible and all auctions. And really ....

[Евгений]

Originally Posted by SergeiSK

And all the really ....

Sergey again you good luck ..

[qwerty]

Originally Posted by Eugene

Sasha is an illusion that the solid Western auctions, and Moscow may lead a novice.

Absolutely agree!

[fross]

Originally Posted by Eugene

SergeiSK, conversation was about the large and medium-sized auction houses, on small (little known) is possible.
Krasnopevtsev buy now on auction (if the directory is in inete) on investments, 1:200, it is not realistic.

All true, but there is nuance: they do not know that it Krasnopevtsev.

[SergeiSK]

At Moscow auctions newcomer (and even old-timer), just out of luck. All have long been overestimated. If only you'll never guess the future potential of the artist, or did not unleash it through the auction house. Example Sovkom-Tutunov, and the same Ossowski. Praise sovkomovtsam for such an event! And on the western auction is different. Specialists in Russian art, and they, by definition, must be only Russian experts are working mainly on certain auctions, but there are 3.4 of the auction, and all - Sotheby's, Christie's, MakDuggals, Tazhan may even Stockholm. But Western experts often simply can not identify the author. That is when the unexpected happens and inexpensive shopping. You simply have to do it regularly and monitor and then luck just smile. Just do not want to show here your paintings bought at various auctions and write final auction price for them, because price in Russia is higher than in the times, and even an order of magnitude. And wrong to draw conclusions even once this person is not confronted.
fross,
: D That's it! : D No comment!

[fross]

Originally Posted by SergeiSK

fross,
: D That's it! : D No comment!

I really hope that you and this time lucky. This is an excellent illustration of everything you have been said.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Eugene, and you no longer listen to Uncle Misha, he'll still something napoet.
"The cynical and hardened" pro-strashilka for nachinayuschih.Ne so bad ...., says .... Yes, and pro-so-so ... on bezrybe, among the sheep-lad ...