|
|||||||
| English | Русский | ![]() |
Регистрация | Дневники | Справка | Пользователи | Поиск | Сообщения за день | Все разделы прочитаны |
| Appraisal Find out where and how you can get artworks appraised. Discussions related to fine art appraisal. |
![]() |
|
|
Опции темы | Опции просмотра |
|
|
|
|
Язык оригинала: Русский #1 |
|
Гуру
Регистрация: 25.03.2009
Адрес: Россия, СПб
Сообщений: 1,715
Спасибо: 1,838
Поблагодарили 3,879 раз(а) в 698 сообщениях
Репутация: 7406
|
But it is already - barbarism against the need to protest this, although it is not damage, but damage to works of art. Even if you correctly identified the author, then do a paper application, where available and reasonably convincingly explained to all their arguments, and not a substitute for the author. It is understandable why it is done. Although the "Not For Sale inspiration," but signed "manuscript" can be resold noticeably more expensive.
By the way, at some online auction saw: "picture of the artist (forgot name), fitted with a fake signature of N. Sheluto." And laughter, and sin. |
|
|
|
|
|
Язык оригинала: Русский #2 | |
|
Гуру
Регистрация: 09.11.2008
Сообщений: 3,850
Спасибо: 8,042
Поблагодарили 5,249 раз(а) в 1,399 сообщениях
Записей в дневнике: 6
Репутация: 8539
|
Цитата:
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Язык оригинала: Русский #3 |
|
Старожил
Регистрация: 05.07.2008
Адрес: Москва
Сообщений: 640
Спасибо: 3,711
Поблагодарили 1,572 раз(а) в 300 сообщениях
Репутация: 2835
|
I often do not put the signature, simply because I do not find place for it. Signature - a color stain, which can disrupt the existing system. Theoretically, the signature must be planned in advance, in practice it is not always possible.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Язык оригинала: Русский #4 |
|
Гуру
Регистрация: 11.11.2008
Сообщений: 1,897
Спасибо: 2,905
Поблагодарили 2,365 раз(а) в 550 сообщениях
Репутация: 4046
|
Once we've gone for "signatures", then I have a question:
who belongs to both signatures are not from the front side, and on the back? I know many people who immediately raises the question of "why it was impossible to leave the autograph on the work itself? ... The back and I can write": cool: |
|
|
|
|
|
Язык оригинала: Русский #5 |
|
Гуру
Регистрация: 14.10.2008
Адрес: ОДЕССА
Сообщений: 4,095
Спасибо: 10,539
Поблагодарили 8,270 раз(а) в 1,817 сообщениях
Репутация: 15226
|
If the original signature was affixed after the completion of writing work (out of modesty, apparent nedopisannosti so as not to distort the "landscape", just so), and the work of buying, the buyer could easily arrange a signature on the back, or fresh sign in the picture with an inscription on the back side of the signature is added by me (the author) in a certain year. I do not think that this may be crucial, which is a signatory to, most importantly, what it is.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Язык оригинала: Русский #6 | |
|
Гуру
Регистрация: 24.05.2008
Сообщений: 5,017
Спасибо: 5,605
Поблагодарили 6,167 раз(а) в 1,669 сообщениях
Репутация: 9525
|
Цитата:
So where, in fact, offering a picture knows why there are no captions? Signature become valued relatively recently, when it was the commercialization of art and the market has got a lot of works. By and large signature requirement came from the west, where the foreign gallery owners to sign the proof of the authenticity of the brand and began to demand to sign the back of the work (in the absence of the author's signature), and even photographed the owner of this work in hand. Many of our artists, how to properly discussed here, not in the habit of signing their works, without even thinking about their future. But times change, the rules too, but the artist has, alas, no. For example, I managed to convince IV Sorokina sign all his work, which he later admitted correct. But VI Ivanov, to my opinion not heeded and signs are not all work. Here's ask him, why? To avoid any misunderstandings gallerist Shishkin, for example, requests heirs to authenticate the work on the back. This is his, and the buyers, too, satisfied. And sometimes another buyer, despite the fact that he takes work in the family, requires a formal examination. So he has other goals than collecting, or is it because of its "professional" work was not used to trust anyone. I will not now where to look, but this subject has been discussed at the forum. |
|
|
|
|
|
|
Язык оригинала: Русский #7 | |
|
Авторитет
|
Цитата:
And then how about this fact? - (Gift from above, an artist from God, a spark of God, God's work and so on.) Conscientiously must have only myself to attribute authorship.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Язык оригинала: Русский #8 |
|
Banned
Регистрация: 20.09.2008
Сообщений: 148
Спасибо: 32
Поблагодарили 54 раз(а) в 26 сообщениях
Репутация: 74
|
Many, what is meaningful artists, artists with the name, the period of socialism did not sign their work because of their commercial nature, was at work order
(Houses of culture, museums, hotels, holiday homes, state. Institutions, etc.) but it works for the maintenance of tangible wealth, money ... no one has repealed ... and in that period. Implemented the paintings through various channels, commission store, thin. exhibitions, friends, VSEKOHUDOZHNIK ... but not every artist wanted, what would his name lit up in such jobs (commercial), do not forget that it was another party organizations, unions, artists, and to insert the enema for excessive commercial activities and membership card on the table can be put away ... That's not a lot of signed works, but if you look closely at each work might find a signature, one way or another zakomuflirovanuyu, a significant artist simply could not leave a mark on the job! Search and obryaschite! I have long been studying the creative Romas Ya.D. He was gone! |
|
|
|
|
|
Язык оригинала: Русский #9 |
|
Гуру
Регистрация: 25.03.2009
Адрес: Россия, СПб
Сообщений: 1,715
Спасибо: 1,838
Поблагодарили 3,879 раз(а) в 698 сообщениях
Репутация: 7406
|
Dear ecc4! What you have written sounds very intriguing:
Not difficult if you provide an example to illustrate (and if possible, even several) of this camouflage? Thanks in advance! |
|
|
|
|
|
Язык оригинала: Русский #10 |
|
Старожил
Регистрация: 20.09.2008
Адрес: Moscow,Russia
Сообщений: 694
Спасибо: 1,324
Поблагодарили 1,086 раз(а) в 255 сообщениях
Записей в дневнике: 15
Репутация: 2082
|
In a notice often that the work sign directly in front of her sale of posbe buyer ... and the name and year of creation ... The reasons are different, many have already here, just forget about it .. Just when the work is crude, not very convenient to its sign ... Jobs may not like the author, which is quite normal ... As a stimulus for growth ... Attracts the very process of writing ...
|
|
|
|
![]() |
| Опции темы | |
| Опции просмотра | |
|
|
Похожие темы
|
||||
| Тема | Автор | Разделы | Ответов | Последние сообщения |
| Why is the work of women artists are cheaper works of men? | Vladimir | Art Kaleidoscope | 28 | 05.08.2009 15:30 |
| Why eagle odnogolovy? | sergejnowo | Appraisal | 1 | 13.03.2009 13:39 |
| Why art lost its taste | LCR | Exhibitions and events | 4 | 26.01.2009 23:12 |
| Why am I not search for the auction? | Алёна | Discuss the Site and the Forum | 1 | 15.04.2008 08:03 |