How to unleash the artist

[iosif]

Сообщение от Samvel

Do you really think that the artist need some materials, it is necessary craftsmen. I think only I know who the artist, because I read every chusch on the forum, such as need to eat, or commercial success.

Yes, Samvel, I really think that the artist wanted "any material". And I really think that hunger is not the father of masterpieces.
And most importantly, you have not noticed my first premise: if the artist is not about to tell (show his work) people, then he, as a social phenomenon, not physically take place. But this is one of the main objectives of the promo.
I believe you because it is pretty fervor not have time to consider other people's arguments.

[LCR]

Of course, you are quite right, Joseph - artists need to eat, like all other people, is a medical fact.
The artist needs and materials. And besides, the artist needed the exhibition - just to see their things in a "foreign" space. This allows him to take a fresh look at them.
For such a simple thing: the workshops with the artists are usually not great (by the way, and for the studio, even the most homely, you have to pay), the same work is quite different looks in a small space and a large exhibition hall.

If I understand correctly, the main idea of Samvel - is that true artist paints for himself, and this is also perfectly true, but one thing to another (ie, work for themselves, from the inner need - and want to put their belongings, to seek to live in their work) does not.

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Сообщение от iosif

And most importantly, you have not noticed my first postulate: if the artist is not about to tell (show his work) people, then he, as a social phenomenon, not physically take place. But this is one of the main objectives of the promo.
I believe you because it is pretty fervor not have time to consider others' arguments

   Yes, someone is against the fact that-be artist to show or exhibit, on the contrary, I only, but not today. Today, on the contrary it must hide. Then what's the difference between a true artist and craftsmen who replicate their albums, which the Central House of Artists Exhibition, I just know who's there every year is exhibited, and sold soy work on a very good price, well, just shtampovschikki who have never painted from nature. What do you want that-be, along with those blockhead were artists with a capital letter? I am opposed to moving only today.

[dedulya37]

Сообщение от Samvel

What do you want that-be, along with those blockhead were artists with a capital letter?

Samvel,
And what are you afraid of? What the public does not distinguish a true artist from craftsman in your understanding?
Difference, and fast distinctions.
In 1999, I organized the exhibition at the Kuznetsk Stozharov, 20.
Advertising was not great, but posters, and not a place for exhibitions, rather particularized. So?
The news quickly spread through the artistic circles. Even those who were not heard at the opening of the exhibition.
After a couple of days I was on his cell (!) Found the phone, LE Kerbel, (and I am his grandson fit) and was grateful for the exhibition of this artist. He actually said: Thank you, Sasha, for a good show, and then among the rest of th ... and to see nothing!
And I'm proud of this praise, though it belongs to the artist.
This artist is always higher blockheads.

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Сообщение от dedulya37

Samvel,
And what are you afraid of? What the audience does not tell the real artist from the artisan in your understanding?
Difference, and fast distinctions.
In 1999, I organized the exhibition at the Kuznetsk Stozharov, 20.
Advertising was not great, but posters, and not a place for exhibitions, rather particularized. So?
The news quickly spread through the artistic circles. Even those who were not heard at the opening of the exhibition.
After a couple of days I was on his cell (!) Found the phone, LE Kerbel, (and I am his grandson fit) and was grateful for the exhibition of this artist. He actually said: Thank you, Sasha, for a good show, and then among the rest of th ... and to see nothing!
And I'm proud of this praise, though it belongs to the artist.
This artist will always underrepresented countries

  You know how I feel about Stozharov, and to you personally, so only a few observations. I often byvl at the salon in the CHA, and there in the past 3 -4 salon, wherever you be moved to ask, but if you have a Stozharov, and asked people simply are far from art, just to sell this predshevstvovalo promotion, and it made the gallery auction houses, vobschem were doing, and professionals and neprofesionaly is these neprofesionaly I think and do much harm, and that is certainly the price of this artist's creeping up, I think they will go down, is the result of a clumsy promotion, in any case, I do see quite perhaps I am wrong. As for the public, it will never tell a real, from the unreal. This art is done far away from the public.

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Сообщение от iosif

You're a wonderful Otroshchenko not hiding, but rather actively propagandiruete. And it is doing the right thing, otherwise we would not have had the pleasure of his paintings.
So, I think you have a special little epatiruete some remarks, evoking a useful and healthy debate.

No one, I do not advocate, I simply represent an artist on a single forum, which I think is very interesting and amusing. reveal a little secret I'll draw and sometimes do not sell very poorly, but I never considered myself an artist, this is my scribble sold more than Otroshchenko, as you say the audience. The audience always admired erundoy.i is its purpose, if the audience liked the work of an artist whom you untwist, it is your personal failure.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Samvel

and that is certainly the price of this artist's creeping up, I think they will go down, is the result of a clumsy promotion, in any case, I see so it is quite possible I am wrong.

Explain the quote.
You mean the price of paintings Stozharov? So I get it?

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

explain the quote.
You mean the price of paintings Stozharov? So I realized?

There is nothing to clarify, in my all clearly written

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Samvel

so now the price of this artist certainly crept up, I think they will go down

For prices of artist's paintings were "creeping up" and then "go down", the market should have enough suggestions on this artist.

Сообщение от Samvel

this predshevstvovalo promotion, and it did galleries, auction houses, vobschem were doing and professionals and neprofesionaly,

I'm talking about "promotion" is Stozharov do not know. What it untwist-his most famous paintings in museums. They (the museum), his paintings are influenced by "promotion"? Think so?

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

I'm talking about "promotion" is Stozharov do not know. What it untwist-his most famous paintings in museums. They (the museum), his paintings are influenced by "promotion"? So I think

They hit the museums, I think in the USSR, then there were real judges. There was no more the word, then only 100%talannt could be presented in museums.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Samvel

They hit the museums, I think in the USSR

Sure.
I was surprised that you have to Stozharov word "promotion" is applied.