How to legally withdraw old engravings from Europe?

[Alextro]

Dear forum members, my name is Alexander. I'm a beginner collector of old prints. Please help, relying on your experience, to understand such matters: For instance, if I buy in France or Germany, old engravings in an antique store or flea market. how to legally remove them from these countries. If you need some papers, then where to get them? All thanks a lot!

[sergejnowo]

dead translation, but the sense I think the issues will not:
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In short:
Require an export permit:
- Written in a hand, watercolors, gouaches and pastels from 30.000 euro
- Written in a hand paintings from 150.000 euros
- Talk only for its own, national artists who are recognized as "part of the culture"


Is not required on all that has been done by a mechanical or semi-mechanical process (prints) - vezite wherever you want and how much you want.

[Alextro]

Since then make a declaration at export point engravings do not need?

[fabosch]

You can declare as their cultural values and then they need to make a declaration, the full list, dimensions, year of creation, author, and give 2 copies of color images. And then they must register at the border and a representative of the Ministry of Culture ekspertirovat. After which they can import duty-free. Or you can declare them as you purchased the goods, but then you have to show (documents) that their total value does not exceed 60 thousand rubles. To avoid paying customs duties. And the third option - just put them in a folder and a suitcase. And if you do not have with an individual objects, reminiscent of their dimensions, the picture, no one to watch your bag will not - who cares

[sergejnowo]

Originally Posted by Alextro

It means to make a declaration at export, specify the engraving do not need?

depending on what you mean by the term "declaration" at the exit from the European Union.
For the private person - the traveler, this document is not and you are not interested in local authorities.
A couple of options that prints to have nothing to do:
- You bought a car from a German legal entity and have on hand from where the VAT listed separately.
When leaving the EU you the right to issue a declaration on the export of goods and gain, in part, the VAT back.
- You bought a ring with bryulikom and have issued "duty free" paper from a jeweler. With this document, you fill in the declaration, in part get the VAT back at the airport.
Of course, if you bought the prints at the round sum of a legal person and the VAT amount, if any, specified in the account, decently, "fight" for a partial refund of VAT is possible.

[Pecheneg]

Originally Posted by fabosch; 1459071"

And if you do not have with an individual objects, reminiscent of their dimensions, the picture, no one to watch your bag will not - who cares

I have a friend in such a way to export from the Czech Republic, all he wants, ie intermeddle in the bag ...
If buzhete buy at auction, the auction and provide the documents for export.

[Wladzislaw]

People, stop fooling head man!


All prints that you buy in the West.
Europe, you can take wherever you want, no permission is needed.

[Евгений]

Originally Posted by Wladzislaw

People stop fooling the person's head!

Dear, please read carefully what people write in this thread .. all essentially the question raised ...

[Маруся]

Originally Posted by Wladzislaw; 1459151"

People stop fooling head man!

Take it - half the battle.
The man did not say what country: Russia or others - he intend to import old engravings. Now, if in Russia, then declared as cultural property must, with all the inconveniences. Because if suddenly a few years later a man want to sell these vintage prints (meaning over 100 years old) on the west auction, without this law to remove it they can not.
I for example had already been confronted with the fact that major Western auction document asking for permission to work on export from Russia, before setting it up for sale. Everything is already "ate" and falshaka, and smuggling.

[Tana]

Originally Posted by Maroussia

I like already faced with the fact that major Western auction document asking for permission to work on export from Russia, before setting it up for sale. Everything is already "ate" and falshaka, and smuggling.

Maroussia, and if the work is moved out of Russia yesterday, and commercials 40-90 years ago? "And even a little as she Mogdy leave Russia in the troubled years .... an export permit has nothing says.