Старый 05.05.2010, 00:45 Язык оригинала: Русский       #1
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1) Hmm. I did not think that'll pick here at such an inadequate assessment)

2) As regards price tags.
I voiced price tags on commercial orders. A reference to the result.
You are obviously very far from the industry.
Illustration of the artist middling worth 300-400 USD
Concept characters in color can cost 500-600 and 800 USD
Serious poster or cover 1000-1500 and 2000 USD
Depends on the brand, the company, the steepness of the artist and the volume of work.

 
1) You put your work in a public forum. Would the critics and the information, opinion of other people - were full. Adequately or not - it depends on the opinions of the individual. Arguing in this manner is useless, because each of us have long had their own personal opinion. You are successful in this bizneme (I stress, business). Your opponents are successful in the art (I say, in art).
Proverb: "Who soup liquid, and who Diamonds crayons.

2) Well, yes, I'm not in the subject. I do not advertise, I do not work with publishers, I do not know illustrators . "Alas, I know.
I'm sitting now in his big house and dream about the new, which will build a special art gallery, as my humble (believe me, yet modest) collection is not located on 150 square meters. am, that I could devote to the collection at the moment. Save "reservists".

   You are very confusing industry, business and art. When businessman ordered a cover or an illustration, he understood the high price, as he himself in this work. But when an artist paints a masterpiece - the value of this masterpiece is often no one yet knows. Try to sell your works to collectors of modern art! This is not the publisher put in the term layout of the advertising booklet.
  I notice that all custom work is usually weak or medium. This is particularly well observed on the works of illustrators. Out of a book of their work is rather weak looking from an artistic point of view and is only interested businessmen and professionals. If the images failed - this undoubtedly the masterpiece, which is not enough.

 Masterpieces on the order is not obtained. Masterpieces of art are born in the emotions, are born by chance.




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Старый 05.05.2010, 01:25 Язык оригинала: Русский       #2
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1) You put your work in a public forum. Would the critics and the information, opinion of other people - were full. Adequately or not - it depends on the opinions of the individual. Arguing in this manner is useless, because each of us have long had their own personal opinion.
Notice I did not argue)
In fact criticism hurt me hard.
Just pointed out the adequacy of the evaluation of specific figures.

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You are very confusing industry, business and art. When businessman ordered a cover or an illustration, he understood the high price, as he himself in this work. But when an artist paints a masterpiece - the value of this masterpiece is often no one yet knows. Try to sell your works to collectors of modern art! This is not the publisher put in the term layout of the advertising booklet.

  I notice that all custom work is usually weak or medium. This is particularly well observed on the works of illustrators. Out of a book of their work is rather weak looking from an artistic point of view and is only interested businessmen and professionals. If the images failed - this undoubtedly the masterpiece, which is not enough.

 Masterpieces on the order is not obtained. Masterpieces of art are born in the emotions, are born by chance.
Do not argue. And do not confuse.
but fall below their own strips do not want

I would say that good custom work for commercial projects to average-quality level. To enjoy the masses do not need artistic individuality and expressiveness, it can even be fatal (not everyone will understand), to mean something attractive for everyone.
In this commercial massmarket and exclusive art are fundamentally different.

And I also understand that as yet I have very little creative work.
We must work on that)
Actually, this is one of the reasons why want to go in the direction of art.
Even the custom work in this area are the individual character of the artist.

Second, an important reason. Massmarket products quickly die.
Even well-known products, which sell millions of copies, a year later no one needs, along with all the posters)
It's a shame to paint in a trash can for an order permanently, when the head is full of ideas)



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... But fall below their own strips not want

I would say that good custom work for commercial projects to average-quality level. To enjoy the masses do not need artistic individuality and expressiveness, it can even be fatal (not everyone will understand), to mean something attractive for everyone.
.....
And I also understand that as yet I have very little creative work.
We must work on that)
  
Ate to compare your work with the painting, then there is nothing interesting. You have not invented anything new in art, your "canvas" can not clearly distinguish from the huge number of like them. I have called you an illustrator Denis Gordeeva, see his "Hobbit" - very much like fantasy. You paint what you were doing before long, using a new tool. That's it. From the standpoint kolektsionera-collector of art - it's almost worthless. But we can estimate in terms of interior decoration. But you really aspire to that?

It has long been known that the designer of the craft has always brought a more stable and higher earnings than the title of a free artist. Being unrecognized talent in search of his style, to finish even one line in a thick encyclopedia of world art - very difficult. In order to live like this, one must have a special mentality, a special fiber. You have to be an artist who least think about money. But the artist in you, I do not quite see. What you are doing, may well be a commercial success. But personally I do not care for two reasons:

1) artistic merit of the works presented
2) Digital base, you can copy and reduces individuality.



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ate to compare your work with the painting, then they do not have anything interesting. You have not invented anything new in art, your "canvas" can not clearly distinguish from the huge number of like them. I have called you an illustrator Denis Gordeeva, see his "Hobbit" - very much like fantasy. You paint what you were doing before long, using a new tool. That's it. From the standpoint kolektsionera-collector of art - it's almost worthless. But we can estimate in terms of interior decoration. But you really aspire to this?
The works presented in the first message to the Topeka fantasy have no relationship. Customized mainly for games, and themes from there.
Above the author's style will work.
But there is also a story, color, composition, idea in the work ...

I am glad that there are more positive assessment of my work from respected artists and gallery owners. True, but nevertheless, we must work with oil that it had some weight and price. Digital painting is interesting to watch or to order, but not to buy a wall or money to invest.



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Digital painting is interesting to watch or to order, but not to buy a wall or money to invest.
     
I am with my akademcheskim thin formation see in the great digital painting (supporting) the possibility for other kinds of art.
The most attractive for me it is that designs are not deteriorate, not get lost and do not take place and not have to make efforts for their preservation.



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