Vanguard: young and perky

[Тютчев]

Originally Posted by public

Thanks for your question: there can be a long debate, which affects and to whom. Picture of TV at my grandmother could affect more impressive than the work is not known Aunt Masha artist. Long conversation. If the collection and assembly may somehow affect the history of art and let the local scale, it is called - an influential. Collections, which includes the work of some of the artists and which might be called "powerful", is both in Ukraine and abroad.

Thanks for the clarification. I agree with you, really, there are collections that only the very fact of its existence greatly influenced the history of art. For example, the collection Tretyakov, Morozov, Shchukin, Costacis! Such collections generally are rare in the history of mankind! If I understand you correctly, you argue that Ukraine now has a collection that can claim the title of "most influential" in the context that you identified? What a collection? I have not heard about them! Do not get me wrong, I want to know about them. The fact that such collections, which "may affect the history of art", is extremely rare (in modern Russia, I, for one, do not know any such collections, in addition to already become museum) and it is worthy of special attention.

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Originally Posted by Eugene

Perhaps this collection:

It's not that I Pinchuk, who made happy the fraternal people of Ukraine showing "imperishable works of" Hearst! Or am I then - that nonsense?

[public]

Originally Posted by Tjutchev

Yes, this is a wonderful collection, but the fact of the matter is that we can talk about them as history has already happened. In fact, these works only shines, that sold at auction, adding to the costs from year to year, so multiply the myths for anthologies.

But we're talking about contemporary art, other laws are working, and you are better than I know. It, scandals, the criticism, the development of the artist, etc. Collections of Modern Art is a priori can not be equated with the museum collections. Last time tested and contemporary art is still time to pass an assessment. Of those children who have collected some really good collection, and in which some good (and not so) artists listed as TOPam, which will soon go down in history, we can count on the fingers of two hands. Recall trend five years ago, so they were even less. I can not but rejoice. Like many others. I can not you say the names of all the Ukrainians, but there Voronov, there Suprunenko, there are other collectors. Sorry, just me and not need to know everyone in person, as well as learn to remember the name - I do not worship the collector.

As to the west. Also, I apologize for the first name that comes to mind, and that many self-praise for its support do not like, but Chichkan entered the collection of Simone de Pure - his good, as far as I know, a collection. Other artists also gradually bought into Western collections through auctions. This is only the beginning, still half a year ago, Ukrainian art exhibited in a block of modern Russian. What's really nothing to talk about a meaningful impact of Ukrainian contemporary art to the western market. There is a tendency, and it can not but rejoice

[public]

Modern art does not always smell sotsialkoy not always zhestyakovoe

[public]

A lot of criticism for this young artist, they say, pop music business. And it is understandable why - because it is sold. If not sold, probably would say that the good work. Thus, by the way

[Fed]

Originally Posted by public

They would say that the good work

  You are a lucky man. I see here only outrageous inability, who studied the artist. If you see the good in this, the real work you do should lead to ecstasy.

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Originally Posted by Fed

You are a lucky man.

... and the author of this topic to the same.

And you can create a forum and its theme, to show in her "real work", which I am sure many would "ecstasy".

[Fed]

Originally Posted by Cyril Syzransky

And you can create a forum and its theme, to show in her "real work", which I am sure many would "ecstasy".

  And on the topic, you can express your opinion, but you can create the forum and its theme ..." - what we already surmised.
  On many "fiery", referred to here have already said, for example here http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showth...t=55021&page=4

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Originally Posted by Fed

And on the topic, you can express your opinion

I can, but I was the topic was somehow not invited to speak about these young artists and, in his opinion, provocative. And others, too, as I remember ...
He undertook to show their work. In his opinion, deserving of attention.
I look at them and myself for this to work, though not large, perhaps, thank you.
And who really believe, and from watching what things come into ecstasy I will not. Or is it a discussion you call it?

[Fed]

Originally Posted by Cyril Syzransky

For example, Masha Shubina dedicated an entire issue

In the whole subject-another view: "Amazing disgusting" that a few posts all, and agreed to by going to discuss more amusing information. But even there, your opinion is not found, except the standard "dostovaniya" Tiutchev.

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Originally Posted by Fed

But there, your opinion is not found

Why you my opinion, enough that you have something of his own there.

Originally Posted by Fed

"Amazing muck"