Fall of an Empire. Byzantine lesson.

[OTROK NIKODIM]

I would like to see this movie many visitors.
I quote a summary of the film with the resource Wikipedia.

 "The basic concept of painting dates back to the Moscow Metropolitan Zosima, who in 1492 in his book" Record Paschal was first put forward the thesis - "Moscow - the Third Rome." For a long time (sometimes even now) the authorship of the concept of "Moscow - the Third Rome," wrongly attributed to the elder Philothei.

Moderator - Archimandrite Tikhon (Shevkunov) - First-person gives his version of the collapse of the Byzantine Empire. Filming done in modern Istanbul and Venice.

Central line of the film is the contrast between the Catholic West and Orthodox East, but neglected to wars with Byzantium, the Arabs had begun in the VII century, and led to the loss of the Byzantine territories in North Africa and the Middle East. Death of the Byzantine Empire was due to the conquest of the Ottoman Turks (1453 - the fall of Constantinople in 1460 - the conquest of the Morea, in 1461 - the conquest of the Empire of Trebizond). The author argues that Byzantium flourished thanks to the strengthening of Orthodoxy and fell as a result of the pernicious influence of the Venetian and other foreign agents of influence of the Roman curia. It does not specify the objective historical reasons for the collapse of Byzantium: expansion of the Ottoman Turks, the internal religious and social turmoil, etc. On the other hand ignored cooperation (up to IV Crusade), the Byzantines and crusaders and other examples of peaceful interaction between the Empire and the West.

Analogies with the history of Russia are unscientific, okoloistorichesky nature: more than a thousand-year history of the Byzantine civilization [1] compared with the last 20-30 years of Russia's history. The author presents the facts from the history of Byzantium, which are analogous to the collapse of imperial Russia and the Soviet Union. A direct analogy with the events of recent history, such as fighting the state bureaucracy with the oligarchs, the Orange Revolution in Ukraine and the separation of Serbia and Bulgaria from Byzantine, strengthening the vertical of power, etc. "


  I hope that this theme for someone interested. Watch online or download the film can be at this address (http://www.pravoslavie.ru/jurnal/080212120041.htm)

[Fed]

"Within the boundaries of greatly reduced split into parts of the Empire Palaeologus dynasty in the 14. Torn by civil unrest and strife on religious grounds.
   Emperors heavily dependent on loans to Venice and Genoa, or from the appropriation of wealth in private hands.
   Most trade on the territory of the empire was controlled by Venice and Genoa. At the end of the Middle Ages, the Byzantine church is much stronger, and its rigid opposition to the Roman church became one of the reasons why the Byzantine emperor and did not manage to achieve military aid from the West. "
  Indeed, even the usual academic article - nothing like.

[OTROK NIKODIM]

Fed,
Excuse me, but I do not understand what you mean. Explain please.

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I'd like to see this movie many visitors.

Why this? What?

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but I do not understand what you mean.

So I do not understand ...

[Самвел]

West regretted 4-5000 soldiers, and got their noses in the Ottoman Empire. but what can you say, the West did not believe that the Byzantine Empire fall. At Joseph Brodsky, has essays "Journey to Istanbul" or "Flight from Byzantium" more interesting thoughts.

[OTROK NIKODIM]

Cyril Syzransky,
Why this? What?
So I do not understand ...

 You put me in a dead end with your questions ... Well do not look if you doubt that it will be useful to you. Why certainly articulate their presence? Then, if you give something unnecessary, then either do not take, or peredarite to whom it is necessary. A press on the opinions of the audience remarks should not be. Moreover, the opinion has not yet been named.

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Hello, Please!
You want to many looked.

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I'd like to see this movie many visitors.

I am one of many asking, but what was this something important?
Daily Constantinople in 1453-th year? It?
Or by the author-priest historical film paraleli with today's Russia? Another strashilka-Fear of the West?
So scary kids scary ...

Added after 7 minutes

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A press on the opinions of the audience should not be replicas.

How is it a replica can put pressure on the audience of such a forum?
You are a bad opinion of our members.
All themselves with a mustache, no replica is not pushed, people, adults and experienced.

[Самвел]

There is a book of the Byzantine emperors, he wrote Segey Dashkov 1968 birth. On a book on Byzantium worked over 5 years. To date, this work is the most polnyi containing biographies of the Byzantine emperors. In this film very much, if not all, taken from this book.

[OTROK NIKODIM]

Cyril Syzransky,
 Dear Cyril! I do not want destructive polemics. DO NOT LIKE DO NOT WATCH. Indeed, I want the movie was shown many, but not all. It is natural that different people may have different opinions. Someone likes the Impressionists, and someone Darya Dontsova. I say without irony or sarcasm, please ... did not see in my answers to you some ambiguities. If you think that I polemics, then you are mistaken. I'm sorry if you thought that I was unfair to you.

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Some people like the Impressionists, and someone Daria Doncova.

That this film is "Daria Doncova.
And its author certainly did not like the Impressionists.