On the correctness of the list of "12 most expensive Russian artists"

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in my opinion, it gives a kind of inferiority complex.

And I propose to do it differently: not only bring all these Rothko, Kossoff and other Alechinsky in place (in the list!), But also co-opt him artists of Russia bonds of kinship, so to speak, Russian par alliance. As you my idea? This will be a list - a list of all lists - and you Picasso, and Matisse, and Dali, and Leger and de Chirico ...


Let us return to the stove with the sheep.
Referring to Russia's Newspeak, it all depends on how you yourself pozitsioniruete. Here is someone in a fit of inspired adulation named this site the best in the world. If so, you need to adhere to the standards of the international community, in our case, the standards of Art.

Before me is a collective work of German historians, published in Hamburg in 1995, "100 artists of the 20 th century. We read: Wassily Kandinsky - German artist born in Russia, his first abstract watercolor (1910) freed painting from the "objectivity". Tamara de Lempicka - Polish artist. El Lissitzky - Russian painter and graphic artist. Kazimir Malevich - Russian painter, the founder of Suprematism. Serge Poliakoff - French painter originally from Russia. Nicolas de Stael - French painter, born in Russia. Marc Chagall, Jewish, French painter, born in Russia.
The drafters did not include in his book nor Lansky, nor Filonov, but it is obvious that no Western historian of art not come to mind include Lansky Russian artist and doubt Russianness Filonov.

World art studies have long recognized the role and achievements of Russian art: Suprematism, Constructivism, set design, analytical art Filonov. And it is not enough! There is much to be proud!
Primazyvayas a stranger or a strange primazyvaya yourself, you look at the best provincials, and nothing but a condescending smile cause you can not.

In this case indeed can and should expand your list not only by the wives and mistresses, but also a relative and godfathers.

The choice is yours, gentlemen, the world's best site.

[Pavel]

Сообщение от Emmanuel Gedeonovich

Do not guessed! Not your ...
I am a lover of Solzhenitsyn, Iskander, and not a fan of Stalin ...

I said dark. Mossad?

Added after 3 minutes
Became boring.

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Сообщение от Pavel

Mossad?

No, JDC. Remember?
 "The Truth" on January 13, 1953
Most of the members of terrorist groups - far, B. Kogan, Feldman, Grinstein, Etinger and others - were bought by American intelligence. They were recruited by a branch of American intelligence - the international Jewish bourgeois-nationalist organization "Joint". Dirty face of this Zionist spy organization, concealing their vile activities under the guise of charity, fully exposed.

Relying on a group of corrupt Jewish bourgeois nationalists, professional spies and terrorists from the "Joint" on the instructions and under the leadership of U.S. intelligence, have launched their subversive activities in the territory of the Soviet Union. As shown in the investigation was arrested at all, he received a directive "the extermination of leading cadres of the USSR" from the United States. This directive gave him on behalf of espionage and terrorist organization "Joint" doctor Shimeliovich and known Jewish bourgeois nationalist Mikhoels.

Unmasking the gang Doctors' Plot was a blow to the international Jewish Zionist organization. Now everyone can see what "Benefactors" and "friends of peace" are hiding under the guise of the "Joint».

[Pavel]

Well, finally began to see our holy .

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Сообщение от ranzher

Primazyvayas a stranger or a strange primazyvaya yourself, you look at the best provincials, and nothing but a condescending smile cause you can not.

In this case indeed can and should expand your list not only by the wives and mistresses, but also a relative and godfathers.

The choice is yours, gentlemen, the world's best site.

In general, like, just mention provinitsialnosti somewhat outdated (I think so ..)

[DimaB]

Сообщение от ranzher

The world art studies have long recognized the role and achievements of Russian art: Suprematism, Constructivism, set design, analytical art Filonov. And it is not enough! There is much to be proud!
Primazyvayas a stranger or a strange primazyvaya yourself, you look at the best provincials, and nothing but a condescending smile cause you can not.

And we have always had their own, special, different from the other way around. Its "own pride." So we cherish our past "Soviet" and now Russianness, as the main and almost the only asset.
And what, really, the difference in the history of world of art, whether Russian Aivazovsky, Chagall or Semiradsky and Lagorio?

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Сообщение от DimaB

But we have always had their own, special, different from the other way around. Its "own pride." So we cherish our past "Soviet" and now Russianness, as the main and almost the only asset.
And what, really, the difference in the history of world art, whether Russian Aivazovsky, Chagall or Semiradsky and Lagorio?
     

Also very much ..
(And only then, for reasons of pride, then, for shame ...)

[LCR]

Сообщение от ranzher

 

Before me is a collective work of German historians, published in Hamburg in 1995, "100 artists of the 20 th century. We read: Wassily Kandinsky - German artist born in Russia, his first abstract watercolor (1910) freed painting from the "objectivity". Tamara de Lempicka - Polish artist. El Lissitzky - Russian painter and graphic artist. Kazimir Malevich - Russian painter, the founder of Suprematism. Serge Poliakoff - French painter originally from Russia. Nicolas de Stael - French painter, born in Russia. Marc Chagall, Jewish, French painter, born in Russia.
The drafters did not include in his book nor Lansky, nor Filonov, but it is obvious that no Western historian of art not come to mind include Lansky Russian artist and doubt Russianness Filonov.

A-ha, it means that you liked my joke, Ranzher, I'm glad
But because before me there is no collective labor work of German historians, published in Hamburg in 1995, and the acquisition of its me in the near future is not anticipated, I would like to ask you: how to define this work of Pablo Picasso, for example, or Juan Gris? Following the logic - not unreasonably - German historians, they must be regarded as French artists come from Spain, is not it? But I will not deny, I will be surprised if this is so - a diplomatic incident with Spain would not pass! A Marcel Duchamp? He's sure to appear in your book? Really wrote that he was - an American artist?

Do not get me wrong: on the one hand, all these accounts for the definition of national identity I personally care about the other - Russia in the twentieth century was a country of emigration, and France or the United States - the countries of immigration, it is a fact. I am confused by one thing - probema methodology, assuming uniformity of interpretation of data, but it's what I do not think: of the four famous musicians born in the early twentieth century in what is now Ukraine, the two leave for the United States and becoming Americans, and the two moved to Moscow and remain - or become? - Ukrainians (I have already mentioned about this story, it cheered me very much); Frenchman, who moved to the United States and acquire citizenship, remains a French artist, but also a Jew from Russia the empire, who came to France until the end of days lived there with regularly Renewable "residence permit shall be credited to the French artists, though, comes from Russia." As they say, without a half liter here can not tell

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Сообщение от LCR

but as in this work determined by Pablo Picasso, for example, or Juan Gris?

A Modigliani?

[Vladimir]

Сообщение от ranzher

Here is someone in a fit of inspired adulation named this site the best in the world.

This opinion, but there is still information. The information is this: There exists in the world is the only site on Russian art, which has the largest auction database for Russian artists, and specializes in money for investment. From what's to argue?