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Old 08-11-2009, 13:42 Original language: Russian        #31
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Gosudarstvu tak vygodnei. Prosche upravliat '.
Eto bylo horosho opisano v "Utopia".
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Old 08-11-2009, 13:54 Original language: Russian        #32
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Family - cell (or the basis for Balzac) society.
To destroy the state, society - need to destroy the family. Who needs it?



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Gosudarstvo i obschestvo ne tozdestvenny.

Esli chelovek predan sem'e, gosudarstvo otstupaet na vtoroi plan, a eto mozet byt 'opasnym.
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Parallel'nyi primer iz meditsiny - do serediny XVIII veka, mogu oshibat'sia v date) vrachi davali obet bezbrachiia, daby sem'ia ne otvlekala ot professii.
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Esli chelovek predan sem'e, gosudarstvo otstupaet na vtoroi plan, a eto mozet byt 'opasnym.
Absolutely! Strong, a large family with a large extensive family relationship, not just a social unit, and the very society, and it miniobschestvo itself can resist the state. And here pribavte various trade unions and community cultural and religious + and see that the State has clamped and compress functions and powers that the people in these countries live easily and happily, and the countries themselves develop and grow rich.



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Gosudarstvo i obschestvo ne tozdestvenny.

Esli chelovek predan sem'e, gosudarstvo otstupaet na vtoroi plan, a eto mozet byt 'opasnym.
Here I disagree a little. A powerful State with its ideology needs of the family. Remember the Soviet Union or present-day Middle East. When the Baltic states become loose from the Soviet Union and created the nation-state was also a cry pozakryvat kindergartens, mother would sit with their children. All plowed on building their individual homes or farmers on the return of land. Some time later, when he came to the so-called free capital, it turned out that the family makes it difficult labor mobility. Kindergarten again overcrowded, and parents plowed labor migrants from Cyprus to Iceland.



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A powerful State with its ideology of the family needs.
Do not confuse the state and country? State and society?
Or to you is the essence of the same?



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Here I disagree a little. A powerful State with its ideology needs of the family. Remember the Soviet Union or present-day Middle East. When the Baltic states become loose from the Soviet Union and created the nation-state was also a cry pozakryvat kindergartens, mother would sit with their children. All plowed on building their individual homes or farmers on the return of land. Some time later, when he came to the so-called free capital, it turned out that the family makes it difficult labor mobility. Kindergarten again overcrowded, and parents plowed labor migrants from Cyprus to Iceland.
Ne sovsem ponial mysl '.

Gosudarstvennyi stroi, kapitalism, sotsialism v dannom sluchae znacheniia ne imeet. Eto printsip gosudarstva kak takovogo.
Hruschiov, naskol'ko ia pomniu seriozno podorval osnovy sem'i, zastaviv zenschin vyiti na rabotu.

Nu a tolpy detei, kto v pionerskih lageriah, shkolah, internatah, detskih komnatah militsii, oktiabriata, pionery, komsomol'tsy itd. Semii zdes; ne vizu.
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Hruschiov, naskol'ko ia pomniu seriozno podorval osnovy sem'i, zastaviv zenschin vyiti na rabotu.
The woman returned to work earlier.



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This kicker.
Pornography - a useful thing. Watch how the theme of pornography flowed in the discussion of global problems of the family, state and society. Conclusion - we want society to become active - need more porn.



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