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Originally Posted by Dmitry

and that you want to prove this?

Just a man was bored. Definite opinion on how something is not built up, want diversity - that's trying to "uschuchit" to revive the dialogue. Here, as often happens, do not be angry.
I read your topic on the forum. I understand why you come here. But alas! --
Here, too, not gods.

[uriart]

Originally Posted by VYACHESLAV

If you talk long halva, mouth becomes sweet. That is exactly your case.

As times and will not be sweet!

[Тютчев]

Originally Posted by Dmitry

As the closest example I can now N. Krymov "Moscow landscape. Rainbow, 1908, the State Tretyakov Gallery. Encouraged to find in it what I say.
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Perhaps you have in mind capital letters of the name and patronymic of Nikolai Petrovich Krymov (NP). Which the artist arranged on the sign just above the lower right corner of the picture.

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Originally Posted by ANTIK

Pictures without signature EXPENSIVE NOT BOUGHT.

    Buy, buy, and yet how dearly!

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Originally Posted by uriart

As times and will not be sweet!

if the situation seen at an angle of auto-suggestion or hypnosis, it would be really sweet.: D

[ВЯЧЕСЛАВ]

Originally Posted by heir

Just a man was bored. Definite opinion on how something is not built up, want diversity - that's trying to "uschuchit" to revive the dialogue. Here, as often happens, do not be angry.
I read your topic on the forum. I understand why you come here. But alas! --
Here, too, not gods.

Read it again. And "certain" opinion there is a common remesluha beginning of last century produced for the urban population. Urban naive to decorate furnished rooms rented by people with low incomes.
For towns and villages pictures were more naive - from mollusks, swans and pr.Syuzhet a moonlit night, ponds, boats on the beach was also very popular.
On all forums there are amateurs important puff, like "I understand why .....". But this fact does not add value discussed painting.

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Originally Posted by VYACHESLAV

Read again

I read.

... In place of Dmitry thing presented to both - "Can this picture painted by ... Kuindzhi?"
  I talked to then - much more interesting, I will note - it is painting, the impression of her, and not the history of the shop Datsiaro.
But Dmitry a certain extent "framed" with their details in good faith, from which the status of the shop Datsiaro and became decisive in the "attribution" paintings.
So in your answer the same purely speculative promises of a rooming house and the paintings on the walls ...

However, this is understandable - Here, there are no gods. As at the forum, from which he came here for a more distinct and, as it seemed to him a competent opinion on the quality of painting.

[Дмитрий]

Originally Posted by Tjutchev

Perhaps you have in mind capital letters of the name and patronymic of Nikolai Petrovich Krymov (NP). Which the artist arranged on the sign just above the lower right corner of the picture.

Yes, of course, believe that for a specialist to see such detail is not difficult. For me, it was in his time a little "opening", especially not yet come across any article which would be written about such things.

Originally Posted by Tjutchev

buy, buy, and yet how dearly!

I do not know how right now, but before buying. Proof of this - paintings by unknown artists, purchased by the Tretyakov.
It's now making a purchase decision and how the sum pricing, I do not know. I thank God, far from this world. At least not yet.

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Originally Posted by heir

In place of Dmitry thing presented to both - "Can this picture painted by ... Kuindzhi?"
  I talked to then - much more interesting, I will note - it is painting, the impression of her, but not the history of the shop Datsiaro.

You probably know better and how to submit material on this forum. Serving information I selected the one that recommended the administration of the forum.
I also still like to discuss the very painting. 'll Show how best to do: create a new topic or rename this? It may be possible obsuzhat here? I still have hope to find somewhere very art lovers to discuss everything that interests me.

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Originally Posted by Dmitry

'll show how best to do: create a new topic or rename this?

Not worth powder and. People will be the same. And the result is the same.

Most likely ... Paying tribute to your perseverance ... You little dig on this picture. Plot in everyday use, the manner of unrecognizable - even in the Russian Museum to you by the artist will not say anything. May be assumptions, but not unequivocal confidence.
Because you are not for sale, let them hang. Thing is quite decent.

[Дмитрий]

heir, pleased to read your answers on the merits of issues of interest to me. It is interesting that your opinion about the film as worthy of attention coincided with the opinion of some museum workers from Peter. They recognize in it the work of someone from the St. Petersburg academicians landscape. Maybe - it Kuindzhi himself or someone of his students. To check this version offered the same, in my opinion a very good option: put a picture next to the original works Kuindzhi and his disciples in the context of the relevant exhibition. Unfortunately the previous exhibition Kuindzhi I "slept".
What in your opinion, can the difference between Moscow and St. Petersburg school of landscape painting and be the reason that in Moscow, this work is perceived by specialists much worse than in St. Petersburg? This juxtaposition of schools could be felt even in the words of tour guides in art museums that I visited.

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Dmitry, you are more complicated reality. It's much easier.

There is a picture.
  Obviously old, a good size. Judging by the picture, a very good painting. Immediately clear the artist is not found in the garbage. Surely, masterovito.
  There birochka - also important, because not Bezrodnaya picture was taken of the sale of the famous store. At Sea bullshit is not traded.
It's all pluses.

Minus one - not the author. And nothing to cling to its definition.
And even if you put your picture in the middle with similar pictures Kuindzhi, one art historian will tell you - "seems", and the second will find dozens of "argument" to say "no".
And the more this difference is explained not suitable in the assessment of "schools" of what you write, but just the fact that one can not stomach another. And you will faithfully and useless to seek the truth in their latent hostility ....
Is a forum does not simulate this situation?

... You want to sell now? No problem, buy it.
You want to sell as dearly as possible? Then work out a strategy, invent provenance, in the end, go to Ukraine. There you will be given a certificate that it Vrubel, Aivazovsky ...
But I would have "insisted" all the same to Arkhip Ivanovich, and not for himself but for the buyer, which, if the moon, then - Kuinji.

.... It is a pity that you have trimmed this picture in an unfavorable context for its sale.