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Старый 30.12.2014, 19:36 Язык оригинала: Русский       #231
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that time will start to drop $ -Euro
And the ruble will become a global currency! Citizens buy up dollars!



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Старый 30.12.2014, 20:31 Язык оригинала: Русский       #232
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[QUOTE=mihailovoh;3328051]ANATOLY
O. You cool.
The difference between this crisis in the fall of the purchasing power of the population and for a long time.Before the devaluation of the ruble was quickly offset by the increase in C\p, and so on.now this will not happen from oil and sanctions..
Cheaper in dollars or more in rubles not that important .if demand drops by orders of magnitude.all one illiquid asset.
PS the Answer is simple .(the period of pereformatirovala).all fall in the price in dollars.-EUR.A year or two will buy only that.what is needed today.It's very similar .that time will start to fall Dol euros.and the markets will find another point of reference for equivalent money and foreign exchange stoimosti@
Hood market is not dependent on external influences, there are crises and other stuff. He kept at prices established at major auctions. See the catalogues and study the dynamics of price changes on artists.

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And the ruble will become a global currency! Citizens buy up dollars!
So you collect the money? You numismatist?




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Старый 30.12.2014, 20:39 Язык оригинала: Русский       #233
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[QUOTE=ANATOLY;3328101]Cyril Syzran, Totally agree with You. You articulated what will happen on the art market not so in the next year or two, and maybe bolshe@
Of course the COP knows better, especially from his glass booth of Elysium. He bored the entire site was filled. The whole day sit-ka out there.



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Старый 30.12.2014, 20:49 Язык оригинала: Русский       #234
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ANATOLY,
Why ethenicity.
The devaluation of the ruble-shifting problems on the population.on its purchasing power.moreover, half of this devaluation caused by external factors. There is rapid growth C\n-there is no recovery as it has been after previous crises.And as a consequence.no demand no .that in addition to necessities.
The course itself plays no role(except for those on savings loans in any currency).To even more primitive to explain all cut C\p +- 900 dollars to 650 dollars.and the prices were and have remained at all.
The Chinese yuan is strictly regulated and tied to the USD.but if there is no growth C\p and employment.there will be growth of welfare of the population. U.S. long lead them"fights".so they raised the Renminbi-I think care about the welfare of the Chinese people?

Pavel
What does auctions.if there is no money to buy? Or 5% wealthy have everything and everyone to buy?




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Старый 30.12.2014, 21:50 Язык оригинала: Русский       #235
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ANATOLY,
Why ethenicity.
The devaluation of the ruble-shifting problems on the population.on its purchasing power.moreover, half of this devaluation caused by external factors. There is rapid growth C\n-there is no recovery as it has been after previous crises.And as a consequence.no demand no .that in addition to necessities.
The course itself plays no role(except for those on savings loans in any currency).To even more primitive to explain all cut C\p +- 900 dollars to 650 dollars.and the prices were and have remained at all.
The Chinese yuan is strictly regulated and tied to the USD.but if there is no growth C\p and employment.there will be growth of welfare of the population. U.S. long lead them"fights".so they raised the Renminbi-I think care about the welfare of the Chinese people?

Pavel
What does auctions.if there is no money to buy? Or 5% wealthy have everything and everyone to buy?
And who devalued? Or itself?



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Старый 30.12.2014, 22:17 Язык оригинала: Русский       #236
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C\p +- 900 $ 650 $
Sorry, what is this C/p these 900 and 650 dollars? This is where the such?



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Старый 30.12.2014, 22:53 Язык оригинала: Русский       #237
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Yes and my forecast, to be honest, few contained wild optimism that loves our Vladimir, my forecast was not inspiring to the pioneer sounds of drums and bugles.
In my lifetime this is the third crisis and I am far from negligent attitudes. Opinion about how to change the art market I have outlined here: http://artinvestment.ru/invest/analy...41028_oil.html in Short: the market will gradually fade in dollars, but the price in dollars will fall. In addition, if the ruble will fall gradually, but it is fall, not here and there, not a bad option - it can be adjusted.
The basis for my optimism is the "theorem Her". The essence - in a new difficult situation a person needs about six months to adapt and learn to live. In the army, crises, etc., That is after about 6 months we will understand how to respond to new circumstances.
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Старый 30.12.2014, 23:02 Язык оригинала: Русский       #238
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[QUOTE="Кирилл Сызранский;3327461"]"Landscape. Trees. Nikolina Gora" 1968 was sold at auction AI No. 32, June 13, and a dollar that day was worth, let me remind you, 34,32 rubles, and the price of this lot in dollars then looked like this: 510 000 + 10% : 34,32 = 16 346. Now this price doubled, but at the end of the second month of the next year the price will be under 2 million, but it ruble price, and will continue to grow along with the dollar/ruble.
Where all this will stop and when is the question, but it is already clear that selling in this period, even for the money this thing will be problematice@
As a negative example thing poorly selected. Talking about this work on the photo. Big oil. 1968, valuable time, valuable topic. The picture is beautiful, alive eyes not to tear. How many are there? 16 000 dollars? I wouldn't be surprised and 26 000. Work of this class is not every year at auctions appear. Buyer can safely congratulate. Would it be possible to sell direct urgently now for 900 000 - don't know. But it would be short-sighted. My opinion.
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Старый 30.12.2014, 23:06 Язык оригинала: Русский       #239
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[QUOTE="mihailovoh;3328261"]Devaluation-shifting problems on the population.on its purchasing power.moreover, half of this devaluation caused by external factors. There is rapid growth C\n-there is no recovery as it has been after previous crises.And as a consequence.no demand no .that in addition to necessities.
The course itself plays no role(except for those on savings loans in any currency).To even more primitive to explain all cut C\p +- 900 dollars to 650 dollars.and the prices were and remained on use@
People earning $ 650-900. almost didn't buy art. Buyers in auction AI - people with incomes in the hundreds of thousands of rubles: the medical business, defense, education, etc.
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Старый 30.12.2014, 23:22 Язык оригинала: Русский       #240
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That is, after about 6 months we will understand how to respond to new circumstances.
Six months from the day when the fall of the ruble will stop, and during these six months, the people, accustomed to the new rate will start to live with it - sell/buy.
And it's not a "theorem Her", this realtor conclusions on the basis of the 1998 default and the crisis of 2008.

[QUOTE="Vladimir;3328501"]we are Talking about this work on photo@
I know what I was talking about, I have this thing already noted.

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I wouldn't be surprised and 26 000.
And I would be surprised, because the most expensive thing A. Zverev was still not sold on the auction AI, and at Sotheby's.



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