Forgery in the auction, "Three Centuries" November 10, 2013

[Вивьен]

I already wrote once in the subject Fakes http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showth...61#post2040861
about fake picture P.Nilusa with expert advice Gerashchenko .

Now, a year and a half , she pops up at auction
http://www.triveka-auction.com/
Lot number 43.
Please remove the organizers is from the auction , as the sole and original work of P. Nilus is in Odessa. Photo 1 - the original. Photo 2 - fake.

[мистер-у]

And how does the conclusion of the experts NINE im.Tretyakova.Kto signed?

Let the organizers of this auction house will present the findings for review.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Mr-y

Oh, how NINE im.Tretyakova.Kto conclusion of the experts signed?

Let the organizers of this auction house will present the findings for review.

See here.

[Glasha]

Vivian, thank you - this is great : reasoned and convincing ( though I am new to painting Ukrainian artists) .

But, in my opinion, this should first speak directly to the auction house - it's their first auction * .
Would be removed , and that's when again reminded of this forgery , and a new attempt to push it up for auction (without the BP well, or " Thanks BP ...").
And if it had not been removed from the auction , then the trumpet in full , of course.

* this is a BP have nothing to do
** Well understand your indignation - she just hate these fake

[Вивьен]

Thank you. I have written today to the auction house . Gave the link to the topic eighteen months ago . And the auction house here with? Often the organizers of trades do not understand where the fake , especially in the presence of an expert opinion from a reputable expert.
Alas, in my experience, have been referring to auction houses - the bidder is not a fake shot .

[Glasha]

Сообщение от Vivienne , 2831971 "

And the auction house here with? Often the organizers of trades do not understand where the fake , especially in the presence of an expert opinion from a reputable expert .

That's it . And the auction nothing to do with ( so far ). But the topic title is not bless a good start .
But the more runs in blood pressure, the better.
Will I be at auction - just take a look .

[Вивьен]

Alas, five pages of this topic have been lost ...

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I will try to recover the disappeared briefly discuss this topic in the last days.
The administration was associated with the auction house , and like the work will be removed from the auction.
In the subject of a new member signed up (as far as I understood , pertaining to the auction house ) , and said that one of these days will be ready for chemical analysis of the works offered at auction.
Also, the new party said that the conclusion of the work in addition to Russian experts, there is also the examination of the Odessa Art Museum .
All my arguments are described and a half years ago here http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showpo...postcount=1348
Additionally spread fragments of the original, which is located in Odessa. As well as photos of forgery and expert opinion on it .
Also interesting is the provenance of the work presented at the auction .
BP claims to have no , the administration has corrected the name of the theme , but in connection with the attack on the forum , the data were lost.

[Борис Кон]

As I already wrote earlier - had a terrible experiment , forgive me higher power, showed both work perfectly Nesvedov people are much more distant from the art than I do, but with only one question: What picture fake?
Amazingly, all shown on the copies sold !
From what I gathered - people are not fooled , and at the same time convinced of his own feeling.
Simple and wise-hearted man in the street , see and understand a lot more than they think about art .
Such are the conclusions ... There it is , gentlemen ...

[Вивьен]

I'll make some changes regarding the information listed in the auction catalog . As seen in Photo 1 in the text states that " Interior room here corresponds exactly to the living room mansion EI Bukovetsky ." In fact , the characters shown in the picture , are not even in the house of the latter . Next: Nilus - "One of the founders of the Society of South Russian Artists ." This is not the case. The founder of it was not . Although irrelevant . In exile in France since 1920 Nilus did not , and since 1924 . But it's too easy, for reference .
And most importantly , on the photo 2 indicated that on Figure 2 ( photo 3 ) shows the NN Lepetich - although this photo Bukovetsky in the living room of his house, 1916 from the archive OGLM .
A mistake is made because it referred to a photo from the book " Peter Nilus . Life and work" , Kiev 2007 , page 10 where posted a picture of three friends , and signed in the book itself , it is not true ( photo 4). Properly will not Nilus , Bukovetsky , Lepetich and Nilus , Lepetich , Bukovetsky .

[Artem]

Сообщение от Art Lover

I was the final link - bought the painting from the famous broker you trust. The examination was fresh, all - rite rite .
Of course , it is unpleasant when bred for money, but more bitter than on the situation itself . Experts, we are forced to trust , you can count on one hand . And they feel their impunity . "I've aged , and not afraid of anything ," said G. someone recently .

Please tell me if anyone knows how that story ended ....