Andrei Erofeev dismissed from the Tretyakov Gallery

[Meister]

Eugene, for

Сообщение от Eugene

when Malevich was a modern artist, nothing but the plot and figurative painting, was not known. Suddenly he in a small white canvas painted in black curve of the square. For that era it was like a bolt from the sky.

thanks. Absolutely agree with you. That's why it costs so much money and that is what you need to explain to people who say that they could draw as well. It is now they can draw, but it does come up with an idea. Cyclists, too, everyone can do, and it only came up with what century? at 18, if I'm not mistaken.

As for permission to the author edit the post comments from other members disagree. This should deal with the site. And if they are created, dozens of the same order, because the author of the first post do not like what others write, the forum zahlamyat very quickly. And in most cases (I stress not all) - someone to find information quickly and it spreads, ie whole question of time, and the posts will still appear. But the insult and expressed, I agree, no need and for this to be the next administration, and help her in that forum members can.

[Сергеич]

I think we have all the time is not about arguing (discussing).

Still, the artist must create something. Just get ready - a severed head, a shark, or a rusty bathtub, it does not work.
None of the "embedding" of energy. For pictures that we like to really radiate energy. Therefore, the square of Malevich draws the energy of it all is coming. But to fire a "square" had to be a tremendously powerful Malevich paintings.

[JM-G]

I personally think that the paintings of Malevich and objects Hirst - not quite the same thing. simply because Malevich was an innovator, and Hurst - well, where is the innovation? it "banal objects" represents all the dead bodies of animals, figures with twisted inwards, painting with dots - yes to him a legion of artists did the same thing, with a very long time. Yes, and the skull of this famous ... whole slew of inspirational concepts to come up with this skull, as if it is "reflection on life and death", but in reality ... I think that he (well, not him, and the factory assistants) made a skull (not the heart and intestine) because in that year of the skull were in fashion ... that's all ... in the case of Hirst's better than the infamous "marketing genius" to admire. and art ... Well boring is called art, because it is trivial. quite uninteresting with. I think art should not be so boring.

about Erofeeva I can not say anything because I am about him what little I know. but when I read somewhere that were exhibits at the exhibition "Forbidden Art" ... began to think the same as about Hearst. Christ with Lenin's head - why should it? a terrible banality and stupidity. As if a man who is created, fantasy (or intelligence) is not enough for a more constructive and impressive critique of religion. that people see the job, really thinking about how much influence religion on a person, not disgusted by cheap outrageous. Of course, with Yerofeyev acted terribly, and to prohibit the exhibition is not very good. but I do not understand why the guise of reasoned criticism of repression, which puts the power of religion and free creative expression, the viewer shoved third-shocking.

[Vladimir]

Сообщение от JM-G

I think that he (well, not him, and the factory assistants) made a skull (not the heart and intestine) because in that year of the skull were in fashion ...

The heart he also did. Good heart, by the way ... And not even one, for different tastes.

[JM-G]

Сообщение от Eugene

All repeat ... then about Malevich, now of Hurst ...

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Yes "banal" art objects are in the 10-20 Hirst expensive paintings of Malevich.

not very repeatable. the fact of the matter is that Hirst's art is unable to shock anyone. it even a little bit surprised no one is capable. the only thing that comes to mind at the sight of Hirst's works - "that's what a fine fellow, a good business has developed. out of work has already sold 20 times more expensive Malevich: D Well done! maybe in the future and obrastet his art concepts such as "Hearst has changed the perception of all art, bursting into the market, and trampled it under him, made him take it (Hirst) rules of the game, arranged the sabotage of systems, put it to a pig" and so on (if already not overgrown). and will all read it, as now, Malevich and Kandinsky. may well be so, but then the "mass audience" has been finally turn away from contemporary art, thinking that he vparivayut any leftovers, and still love them and make ...

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Сообщение от Vladimir

heart he also did. Good heart, by the way ... And not even one, for different tastes.

but the hard spin and sold over 100 million he had not the heart, and skull: rolleyes:

[Сергеич]

We are in discussion every time we jump from one to another.
I say that the severed head of a cow no extra cost in the form attached labor-power. That is what I say. And you jump on the "heart" where exactly is the investment of work.
Heart and another and another - good.
A pathologist then any we have become an artist.

[Meister]

Сообщение от Eugene

Yes "banal" art objects are in the 10-20 Hirst expensive paintings of Malevich.

Eugene, you what! appeared on the market any oil Malevich (as it appears, thanks to the heirs who have received recent 5 works), it will cost much more expensive than any of the art objects Hirst. Here Hirst argues that his skull is worth $ 100 million, but I'm almost 100%sure to find a buyer for it will be oh how difficult. And if you set a strong oil Malevich, even for 100 million it will turn, because this man - the father of all non-figurative art, including the same Hurst ))))))

[Евгений]

Сообщение от Sergeyitch

A pathologist then any we have become an artist.

Sergeyitch in the art (classical, date) pay, usually for a name .. energy, labor, soul, otherworldly forces, no one interested .. the name is important.


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Сообщение от Meister

oil Malevich, even for 100 million it will turn, because this man - the father of all non-figurative art, in that

Most nedovno "Inkombank" for 1 mln.na "Gelos" sold Malevich, (there was a big queue).
Yes, Malevich my favorite artist.

[qwerty]

Eugene, recently - in 1998 it was selected Gelos conditioned area, since a helmet state. Otherwise, even after the default, the queue would have been considerable.

[Meister]

Сообщение от Eugene

Energy, work, soul, otherworldly forces, no one interested

Not to mention modern art, the names of the 20 th century artists became known because of their work they put energy and soul. And those who do not do today, and there is no trace. Same name can not suddenly become famous for no reason, no reason at all. This name should be something to create. Previously, it was the idea, today it is PR.