Kornilov was a plate of fake - Форум по искусству и инвестициям в искусство

Eriksson · 06.02.2012, 16:23

German citizen of Russian origin offered one auction house in Sweden "Tallrik i porslin, Ryssland, Kjeserliga Porslismanufakturen S: t Petersburg. Tsar Nikolaj I: s period (1825-1855)". Signerad N. Kornilov. Utrop 175.000-200.000 kr. "

( a plate made of porcelain , Russia , the Imperial Manufactory in St. Petersburg. period of the reign of Nicholas I. Signed NG Kornilov. estimeyte 175.000-200.000 euros ).

The plate has not been sold , but then was sent to the online auction .
In the Police Department received a complaint that it was a fake . Plate withdrawn from the auction and the very first examination showed that the plate is made and signed by no more than 10 years ago.

Rising skill of Russian counterfeiters ! Falling confidence in the competence of the Swedish auctioneer ! Ur. ( This is me on my own ) <! - ~ 1 ~ -> <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

uriart · 06.02.2012, 21:53

Eriksson, and in Germany, and Russian are also made fake!

Игорь Гурьев · 07.02.2012, 08:07

What is a good dish.
Only the cost should be cheaper.
Once a 500.

Landscape inside, maybe even better than the Kornilov , but the gold patterns around - a horror - horror- horror (c).

Comrades, forgers , spare no gold and fantasies on minor details .
Fail counterfeiters are always particular.

A landscape beautifully written , well done !
( Unless printed specials. Printing machines ).

Eriksson · 07.02.2012, 11:49

Well, as I thought - it is not vigilant Bukovskis.

Found a large picture, it is possible to consider the details.

uriart · 07.02.2012, 13:11

Eriksson, it turns out that in the Emperor's clothes painted by someone?

Of course, it is impossible to judge from the photo.

And so, at first sight, is beyond doubt.

Кирилл Сызранский · 07.02.2012, 13:19

Цитата:

Сообщение от uriart; 1963151"

turns out that the emperor's clothes someone painted ?

Turnover of something good. Yes , and gold on the face , I think the time is not today .

Цитата:

Сообщение от Eriksson; 1961891"

A plate withdrawn from the auction and the very first examination showed that the plate is made and signed by no more than 10 years ago.

And what about the signature in question ?

Eriksson · 07.02.2012, 13:33

uriart, I thought so too .

Цитата:

Сообщение от Kirill Syzran ; 1963201"

And what about the signature in question ?

I quoted the press release. Details, as always, is not given . There, and the auction house , it was not named . I had to own resech uchinyat ...

Here is the link :

Curiously, it was a spring auction in 2010 , and the information passed just now.

uriart · 07.02.2012, 14:16

Eriksson, the fact that on a plate stamp authentic-sure.

Gold, similar to what is normal.

But the painting - I do not know.
I can not judge

Кирилл Сызранский · 07.02.2012, 14:21

Цитата:

Сообщение от uriart

this painting - I do not know.

Topic has suggested that perhaps the landscape "is printed specials. Printing presses."

In both!

uriart · 07.02.2012, 14:29

Cyril Syzran, well, if you refer to the history of the IPE as plates with printed pictures were released in the days of Alexander the Great.

For this I do not know.

Perhaps you need to do chemical analysis of pigments of the paint layer.

06.02.2012, 16:23	Язык оригинала: Русский #1
Eriksson Гуру Регистрация: 13.11.2008 Адрес: Стокгольм Сообщений: 2,829 Спасибо: 2,474 Поблагодарили 2,597 раз(а) в 943 сообщениях Репутация: 4971	Kornilov was a plate of fake German citizen of Russian origin offered one auction house in Sweden "Tallrik i porslin, Ryssland, Kjeserliga Porslismanufakturen S: t Petersburg. Tsar Nikolaj I: s period (1825-1855)". Signerad N. Kornilov. Utrop 175.000-200.000 kr. " ( a plate made of porcelain , Russia , the Imperial Manufactory in St. Petersburg. period of the reign of Nicholas I. Signed NG Kornilov. estimeyte 175.000-200.000 euros ). The plate has not been sold , but then was sent to the online auction . In the Police Department received a complaint that it was a fake . Plate withdrawn from the auction and the very first examination showed that the plate is made and signed by no more than 10 years ago. Rising skill of Russian counterfeiters ! Falling confidence in the competence of the Swedish auctioneer ! Ur. ( This is me on my own ) <! - ~ 1 ~ -> <! - ~ 1 ~ -> Миниатюры Последний раз редактировалось Eriksson; 06.02.2012 в 16:30.

07.02.2012, 08:07	Язык оригинала: Русский #3
Игорь Гурьев Гуру Регистрация: 01.07.2009 Адрес: город П. Сообщений: 4,939 Спасибо: 6,544 Поблагодарили 6,620 раз(а) в 2,829 сообщениях Репутация: 13305	What is a good dish. Only the cost should be cheaper. Once a 500. Landscape inside, maybe even better than the Kornilov , but the gold patterns around - a horror - horror- horror (c). Comrades, forgers , spare no gold and fantasies on minor details . Fail counterfeiters are always particular. A landscape beautifully written , well done ! ( Unless printed specials. Printing machines ). Последний раз редактировалось Игорь Гурьев; 07.02.2012 в 08:45.

07.02.2012, 11:49	Язык оригинала: Русский #4
Eriksson Гуру Регистрация: 13.11.2008 Адрес: Стокгольм Сообщений: 2,829 Спасибо: 2,474 Поблагодарили 2,597 раз(а) в 943 сообщениях Репутация: 4971	Well, as I thought - it is not vigilant Bukovskis. Found a large picture, it is possible to consider the details. Миниатюры

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uriart Banned Регистрация: 05.06.2008 Адрес: UKRAINE Сообщений: 8,039 Спасибо: 5,979 Поблагодарили 7,016 раз(а) в 2,462 сообщениях Репутация: 12460	Cyril Syzran, well, if you refer to the history of the IPE as plates with printed pictures were released in the days of Alexander the Great. For this I do not know. Perhaps you need to do chemical analysis of pigments of the paint layer.