"Black Square" by Malevich: who feels that, looking at this picture

[Ylot]

Сообщение от Seriy

Ylot, instead teoritezirovaniya, go to the Tretyakov Gallery and take a look original.
That's what I-doing the original and always look on me no explanation is required.

Oh no I'm afraid I will go ....
Somehow I handier and closer Hermitage .

Looked your work. It appears you are willing to sell everything that touched your "left foot"!?

[artcol]

Сообщение от Seriy

I will not argue with the speakers before, but my opinion is not written essay, it is a different color of paint in the upper layer - there is green, and blue is. Or a crude sketch and paint mixed up or Malevich did it on purpose, that is multicolored square. In the end, no it does not interfere with walk again black immediately or later, if the idea was a dull-black.
 Variegation he pursued in depth.
Yes, written sometimes comes through the years, but through the whitewash, not through the soot. Soot, by contrast, can migrate into the upper layers and make the surface even more dark.

Why - just a dull gray? He's not a painter. Yes, and nothing to do with the depth - he sought NEED perception. PSYCHOLOGICAL black. PSYCHOLOGICAL square. Making extra items he intended to do overload the viewer with the fact that convex imprinted in his mind only an abstract image - a square and nothing more. My IMHO, as you know.

[Posav]

Сообщение от Ylot

looked closely your work. It appears you are willing to sell everything that touched your "left foot "!?

Pomyahshe, tovarischsch, newbie. In this forum ban for a week for the transition to personal insults (sort of). Here you watched the artist's work Seriy and laughed. (artist might offend everyone) And you would be able to show his collection, or if there is any, please indicate your education since written an article?. Can we laugh too.

[Seriy]

Without words.
Tongue dry statistics of the day January 23, 2011 at 0:50 Moscow.

[Ylot]

Сообщение от Posav

Pomyahshe, tovarischsch, newbie. In this forum ban for a week for the transition to personal insults (sort of). Here you watched the artist's work Seriy and laughed. (artist might offend everyone) And you would be able to show his collection, or if there is any, please indicate your education since written an article?. Can we laugh too.

Why are you so!? Over the work I did not laugh, and the theme does not allow, but over the snobbery of some "experts", God himself ordered the ...


So I say to offend an artist and everyone can "


You see my dear? I of the 3 two thin /education and the fact that one of them hud.graf Odessa. Already on your site would cause to think?! Should I look for an alternative reason for laughter. I think that you have a sense of humor might be a problem , so I gave you a reason to shine. Article in front of you!

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Сообщение от artcol

Why - just a dull gray? He's not a painter. Yes, and nothing to do with the depth - he sought NEED perception. PSYCHOLOGICAL black. PSYCHOLOGICAL square. Making extra items he intended to do overload the viewer with the fact that convex imprinted in his mind only an abstract image - a square and nothing more. My IMHO, as you know.

Understand correctly, but here are some ...

[Ylot]

Today, February 23,

marks 133 years

birthday of the great artist,

Author "Black Square"

Casimir Severinovich Malevcha.



You can drink 100 grams!

[Valerit]

Сообщение от LCR; 1156061"

and Malevich, Kandinsky and perfectly able to draw. Do not you know their great figurative works?

A "academic and ispressionisticheskuyu manners" they just left academics and the Impressionists, their, unlike imitators who still draw portretiki silver pencil, or engage in "impressionizmom" not interested in repeating the old, they sought - and found - new ways for that the honor and praise them

GOLDEN WORDS

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Сообщение от LCR; 1156641"

First I thought something was really gone by, but after seeing some of the components of your list of artists:


Quote:
Message from the artist
Kramskoy, Gay, Semiradzki /.../, Kuindzhi Korovin /...//...//.../Gerasimov Pimenov, Korzh, formations, Salakhov, Tkachev, Vyacheslav. Fedorov

well, and the like

realized that the past was all, and will not, as would at first suggest that you familiarize yourself with the work of Malevich, and especially with its amazing graphics - You and your bunch of freaks still do not appreciate

  
A Korovin does not fit next to Salakhov

[iside]

Once more about him.

justify Malevich!
February 23, 1879 (according to other data, 1878) was born on his father, "Black Square» Article Ryleva Constantine.

Kazimir Malevich - a classic of world avant-garde 97 years ago created the "Black Square", which became the banner of modern art. Disputes about this creature does not stop after its first public demonstration - December 17, 1915 on the "Last Futurist Exhibition of paintings" 0.10 ".

"Black Square" is useful for marking the layman: do not you understand anything, not dedicated! However, when a few years ago I asked a young and well-known (and now titular), Moscow artist, which means "Black Square", which she loved so much fly in the face, the artist cheerfully replied: "It's an idea." - "What's the idea?" - I did not let up. There was a pause, the artist began to mutter something like: "Taxi drivers will never understand Malevich, it irritates them." I was not a taxi driver, it is - even more so. As I understand it, "taxi driver" in the environment of contemporary art - a generalized image of a philistine. Nevertheless, I asked the artist to return to the essence of the conversation, and then it turns out, she conceals trump card, not realizing what kind of card?

"Well, what do you think, there for an idea?" - She gave up.

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I told her the story of the creation of a masterpiece, which until recently was considered to be reliable.

Heroes of the opera - a mythical characters: Budetlyanskie strongmen, Colorful eye traveler at all ages, Bully, Pohoronschiki, Athletes, The Aviator. General chorus sings: "We are free ... Broken sun. Live the darkness! "Budetlyanskie strongmen pull the sun" fresh roots ", saying:" The sun, you gave birth to passion, inflamed burning ray. Draw a veil, banged on the concrete house! "Shining" draws the "black square symbolizing the power of human reason, logic and analysis.
When the sky burn out plugs

In 1913, the Futurists - the artist Kazimir Malevich, Alexei twisted poet and composer Michael Matyushin - came up with the opera "Victory over the Sun." The title of the opera - an allegorical expression of the eclipse. This phenomenon, which for centuries have seen a bad omen, the authors saw a positive sense: a victory over the old new world, science and technology - over nature, a triumph of mind over the elements.

Malevich made decorations, which used abstract geometric shapes. In particular, the black box: a decorative element, he eclipsed the sun at least decorative. The bright fringe on either side of the square - pushing up the sun's rays.

1913th - a watershed year, more First World War and the Revolution. The basic idea of ​​"Victory over the Sun" began to look apocalyptic. Malevich was directly linked the emergence of "Black Square" with the idea of ​​an eclipse. But most of the canvas itself was not.

In the spring of 1915 Malevich Matyushin asked to prepare sketches of its scenery for the publication of a brochure on a futuristic opera. While working on them overshadows the artist, he paints on canvas other abstract shapes, superimposing a black square. It was June 8, 1915.

He writes letters to the composer Matyushin, putting him on notice that the black square, which was at the theater (or on the curtain at the back stage), is "the embryo of all possibilities ... the foundation, the first principle of all, the founder of the cube and sphere." Malevich did not just emphasize that the black box or as a truncated cone decorations were needed for him to "the moment of absorption of the sun."

At the "Last Futurist Exhibition of paintings" 0.10 "" Black Square "takes place in the red corner. He and the end of the old painting (zero forms), and the beginning of a new (and why the exhibition was called "0.10").

When the hit parade for the 2009 exhibition "Ordinary Magic", I mentioned that in the opera "Victory Over the Sun" appeared as part of the scenery of the prototype of the "Black Square", one of the LJ community dedicated to the works of Malevich, I have quoted, accompanied commented: "The art critic Rylev not know when written" Black Square ".

My opponent argued that the "KGB" was born June 8, 1915, and any of its pre-images in the show "Victory over the Sun" was not. And the fact that he was there "appeared" nothing like "the result of sophisticated manipulation Matyushina Malevich." All of this supposedly "perfectly reconstructed Alexandra Semyonovna Shatskikh in a recent book," Kazimir Malevich and Society "Supremus".

Edited by respected Shatskih I have a five-volume edition of Malevich and a couple of books, where she holds a different version. And in the "Supremus", it turns out, refutes itself?

I had to read it, and with this work.

Having carefully considered the letters to the Matyushin Malevich, Alexandra Shatskikh concluded: Casimir realized the value of the square, only when the concept has made its move with the finished picture is painted black (the poor Malevich was not a new canvas). We mention that he experienced with the conceptual act of ecstasy - "seen on the canvas fiery lightning." Realizing the potential of the square, Malevich began to push through his Matyushin like the square was already in 1913 as a thumbnail. Shatskikh catches Casimir dates: first, he did not mention the square, and then began to tell me that he was still in the first action of the play.

With regard to dating - a separate conversation.

We already know that, when in the late 20's preparing for a Malevich exhibition at the Tretyakov Gallery, he wanted to present their work in retrospect. His sezannistskaya picture "Sisters" was designated 1910. In fact, he performed this work in 1930. Researchers have only caught a half-century artist in the rigging: these paintings, written in hindsight, he had enough. Malevich wanted the paintings in the Tretyakov reflect the sequence of its creative development. Now malevichevedy long and meticulously compare the dates of his works. A Shatskikh took rechecking letters.

I came to the conclusion that Malevich Matiushin manipulated (rather than vice versa, as one might think by reading my opponent). The composer was in general do not care about pictures for the brochure: it does not even understand why Casimir so persistently promotes a square, considering it "the least interesting." After the first two opera productions (3, 5 December 1913-go) nobody really describe, and Malevich could issue its new designs for the previously discarded.

Make some clarifications.

There is a famous sketch of the fifth picture of the second act, which shows a white box, inside of which one - a small, divided diagonally into black and white halves. It's like the yin-yang of the square. Artist Paul Mansurov (1896-1983) on the black square of Malevich said that he reminds him of "Buddhist religious emblem, there are thousands of years." The same can be said about the "yin-yang square." Shatskikh in his latest work does not refute the date of the occurrence of this sketch - 1913th.

Sketch of the fifth picture of the second act in complete agreement with this statement researcher: "The square, cut in half along the axis, with shifts and turned into a dynamic-static form of" cross planes ". Thus, the "Black Square", "Black Circle", "Black Cross" were the "three pillars" on which rested a system of Suprematism in art, in a number of non-objective geometric patterns pervofigury have the software sense, at the basis of a clear plastic system constructed by the great artist ".

Sketch of the fifth picture of the second act - it is a prototype "of the Cheka» № 1.

In the painting "Composition with Mona Lisa" (labeled "Partial Eclipse") already has a "black rectangle" (an expression of Malevich). This item was referred to the 1914 mu (Shatskikh moves the date for the spring of 1915). "Partial Eclipse" over the "full" in June 1915.

"Composition with Mona Lisa" - a prototype number 2.

Conclusions.

The opera was not completed and the exact solutions of the plastic eclipse, which would be the main figure in a black square. But it was the first attempt to implement it. "Black Square" fell on his head Malevich June 8, 1915: the artist was moving in this direction for two years. Work on the opera for the first time gave Malevich a reason to extend the drawing up of cosmic proportions. And gradually accumulated sketches and paintings, which are the starting points for the appearance of Suprematism.

Early on in the vanguard of Malevich went to the commissar's jacket, Chagall in Vitebsk, if you do not shoot the dissenters, the paint, it is known, took away. It's the same with a contemporary Russian performances. Why did the artist running down the street and bite people in the ass? Why did the artist himself crucifies why hack icon or drowning in a pond? This is all just idiocy. At the same time the absolute Zen - because it is enlivened reality.
Oleg Kulik, "Fools artists rescued spirituality ..."

Here are the stages of the artist's career. Malevich has mastered all the fashionable European styles (or, as he said, "system"): Modernism, Impressionism, Cézanne, Cubism. And finally issued his Suprematism (from the Latin word "Supremus" - "high"). By the 1912-1913 year Malevich did "Cubist" Cutting the space, but the objects depicted in his canvases, were severe (as the father of cubism of Picasso).

However, the avant-garde was already occupied by the "life space and planetary bodies," he wanted on canvas show the effect of gravity, magnetism, electricity - power fields. In the sketches for the opera subjects lost weight, volume and physicality: they seemed to soar into space. Malevich was fond of scientific discoveries, but his outlook was religious. "Black Square" he later called an icon.

Shatskikh Alexander caught a great artist at the next deception. Why would he want it? According to art historian, "in the name of the supreme truth." But what is it?

The researcher assumes that he wanted to "patent" their system early, because the idea of ​​Malevich was more important than "its technical performance."

But why did it retroactively portrayed impressionistic landscapes and portraits sezannistskie? These styles - not his invention. Malevich said: "My - Suprematism. The rest - not mine. "

It seems to me, here is the key word (again!) "idea".

Shatskikh highlights the fact that Malevich was "an artist of ideas." And his artistic biography, he has divided the "ideological" (system) periods (artists who, in his opinion, did not come up with their system and work within the framework of strangers, he called a "hollow"). Therefore, when Malevich was preparing his retrospective, he recorded his own passion for this or that idea: Modernism, Cézanne, etc.

In "Black Square" in 1930, he brought back - "1913." This is not only selfish reasons (zapatentovat!), and because he thought: Supremacist idea occurred to him in this year (and by "the square of the Jahn-inyu" it is clear that this is the case).

In future editions I would advise Malevich to works written by the artist after the event, set two dates: one, when this work was done, and the second - the one that marked the artist, as he fixed the date of his interest in this or that idea. This was his "highest truth". True ideas!

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[Art-lover]

Here is a coin in a piggy bank, "who thinks"

(Adapted from photo essay Paul Otdelnova ИСКУССТВОестьИСКУССТВОестьИСКУССТВО about the exhibition in the MMSI):

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[Магнолия]

Сообщение от Ylot; 1537441"

"Black Square" deprives the public the possibility of " slovobludstvovat ," as it is and annoying.
The arguments about the " Black Square " with no arguments - it underscores their ignorance .

Always felt that arguments to say did not work.
A hint here recently arrived in time : the high artistic skill likened to a masterpiece . I do not agree. Substantiate its position example - " Black Square" by Kazimir Malevich . A masterpiece ! And the artistic skills - zero. The concept of "masterpiece" I have written an essay , " Solomon and the Shedd " and " Bright Pine " (both are in my diary ). The high artistic skill is defined by the word " skill" .