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On this day every time I ask myself the same question: "was it worth me August 19, 1991 risk of personal freedom and well-being of his own family?".
     The issue is complicated. Ultimately (as a result of our three day unarmed uprising) came to power the vanguard of the Communist Party, against the omnipotence of which we protested. The political dictatorship of the Communist Party dictatorship was replaced by the gendarmerie of the security part. Moreover, in the absence of any control. As part of the CPSU, and from civil society. Secret Service discredited and defeated the parties of the post-Soviet society. It was not in the ideology of these parties, which had no mass support for the general population. It was the threat of civilian control over the activities of secret police and had joined her bureaucracy, which emanated from itself the existence of these parties. That's what determined the creation of the secret police under the control of a ruling party today, with various beautiful names, have nothing to do with the substance and the results of their activities.
     After 19 years everything has returned to business as usual. The people and still do not have enough food, clothing and spacious modern accommodation. Back then it was due to the physical absence of the above, then today is due to deficiency in the majority of funds for a normal existence. All the same meager pensions, the unavailability of free qualified medical care and quality of medicines, as well as the futility of youth in promoting and in housing for creating a family. Without the conditions included in the active support of the existing regime.
     Poor countries has become a country poor and servile.
     And it is - not the only change.
     Then we thought that since you can not live, and in a state of emergency came to the square in front of the White House.
     Today, if we come to the same conclusions, we can not meet in the same area, then called Freedom Square. It is fenced off from the people on the street very tall steel fence, and "native" Riot police seized and will be packing any number of people, which drew more than three people without government permission. Moreover, no state of emergency.
     For all this I think is right its decision to participate in an unarmed revolution in 1991, which was not only a breath of freedom, but also caused a portion of the population in Russia is almost forgotten feeling - a sense of self-esteem.
     Effect Perelman discussed in this topic, in my opinion, is a product of the revolution-91 and an adequate response halyavschine prevailing in the current society under the slogan: "At any price".
     Decency - priceless.
     Do an honest man can not buy it.
     As it turned out, even for a million dollars.
     Fortunately, Perelman is not alone - enough to carefully look around or go to the site: http://ovoscham.net.
    Personally, I think Perelman hero of our time, as children who died under the treads of August 91st. Their death averted a bloody assault on the White House and return the country during the Gulag. An example is Perelman can and should serve as a moral transformation of Russia.
     We live in a country where you can not make people become honest. Neither the power of religion, no force of law, nor force of arms. The moral transformation of Russia is unrealistic without human decency, without self-respect to his every one of us. From our choice (the choice of each of us) depends on - whether we are free citizens of a free country, or with noodles on the ears will continue to slurp around us dirt.
     Without moral transfiguration of our country is doomed to destruction.
     I think so.

                          Defender of the White House in August 1991 (Group 19).

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy

This did not happen in August 91 th and 31 th December 99 th.

That's why I wrote word for word: " ultimately (as a result of our three-day unarmed uprising) came to power the vanguard of the Communist Party, against the omnipotence of which we protested. The political dictatorship of the Communist Party dictatorship was replaced by the gendarmerie of the security part. "
Do not be August-91, there would be no December-99.
I believe that today the country in moral terms has fallen below the level of July 91.
No coup would not have achieved this.
Here's what rankles me.

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy

And that this was "morally"? How? And that means, "country"?
I, for example, in moral terms, now I feel OK, better than 91-m. And my family too.

I do not know. Me and my family in the moral and material situation also in a better position than before August. However, in August we saw a future at the barricades to others.
Not one person had no idea that the KGB will not only survive, but will come to power.
They feared the restoration of communism, but received the Latin American version.
Naturally, this mode does not stay in power.
Also as a creep in the trust, follow, sit, tortured and shot, they can not do anything. However, learned to seize.
This is exactly what they kill. But at the same time the unity of the country.

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Сообщение от Maroussia

Just in August 1991, you missed something very important, therefore, probably, so you remember 1999.

We missed their participation in politics after August. They calmed down and dived to his ears in the business, considering that we've done our job.
Oct-93 pulled us back to the barricades. And again unarmed.
Even after October, we do not have a National Guard that had been promised to us in the August and subsequent days.
Under the guise of the National Guard was established MOE, which has turned in a manger, what this summer convinced the whole country. Huge money was spent on anything other than fire fighting equipment.
The result - well known.
We missed their participation in politics even when the raid began - weaning officials of private business.

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Сообщение от inquisitive

huge sums of money have been spent on anything other than fire fighting equipment.
The result - well known.

in California with the fire equipment is OK, but when burning wood, very often burned and homes.
Actually, I think that before complaining about a bad life in Russia, you should try to live in the U.S., for example, or somewhere in Western Europe. Then you can understand what is all-pervasive surveillance and what it is now a private business.
http://www.uznai-pravdu.ru/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=3454

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Сообщение от Veronic

Actually, I think that before you complain about a bad life in Russia, you should try living in the U.S., for example, or somewhere in Western Europe.

Actually, I think that before complaining about a bad life in Russia (something where you do not live), you should try living in Somalia, for example, or somewhere in East Africa.

Che wrote? Sami then understand?
In California with the fire equipment all in order, "is clear, thank you.