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Old 22-11-2008, 00:52 Original language: Russian        #51
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I'm in the same year saw the place in the Cathedral of Christ the Savior on Volkhonka brought to the relics, and opposite-turn to Pushkin to Modigliani. The second was larger and nicer to me.
I remember this line, just the second stood to Modigliani.
So? Nothing.: P

And the icons of the main keep, these are indisputable.



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Gala, at first not switched? By the relics?



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Old 22-11-2008, 01:28 Original language: Russian        #53
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: p No, Cyril Syzransky, did not go, and your misplaced sarcasm ...

But you something today ... itching to do it, stood up with the wrong feet? ..

But tolerance and respect, including all religious faiths, and in general human terms no one has repealed.



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stood up with the wrong foot ?..
But look at the time! He can not lie on the wrong foot.



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Property, property ... Icons do not place in the museum and, moreover, in a private collection. Icon - the object of worship. Judging by the posts on the forum, few forumchan really has an idea of how much it means to us, the Orthodox, Trinity Rublev.
And the setting in a fit (otchevidno, from anger to Orthodoxy), Senior Research Scientist Nersesyanu - God the judge. Further proof of why the icon has no place in the museum. ... Do not give holy things to dogs and not mechite pearls before swine.



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Do not give holy things to dogs. Not mechite pearls before swine.
... severely, but justly, stolen Bolshivikov icons, relics should be returned the church and not just three days ..



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... Do not give holy things to dogs and not mechite pearls before swine.
First of all, citizens of Russia and the elected governors should decide what value to the state system
must have a religion and the Church. Understand what the Holy Trinity
for the people. Domain of art, historical
monument or all of the same shrine? Which must be located
a holy place. That must be approached people with a pure heart and
radiant thoughts and look at the image on his knees, and not
ticket, after a visit to McDonald's.
The desire to simply gaze occurs in humans and even surface
envious. Do not insult, do not spoil the Shrine of the people's celebrations.



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Old 22-11-2008, 13:48 Original language: Russian        #58
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understand what is the Holy Trinity
for the people. Domain of art, historical
monument or all of the same shrine?
Rather, after all there are more appropriate definition is "sacred" and artifact. In Orthodoxy, this icon is revered more than the "Old Testament Trinity" (The Holy Spirit in the form of a dove).
But how to define in a multinational and multi-religious country, what is this or that artifact to the people? For Armenians, Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, Hare Krishnas, atheists, art, satanists, etc. meaning something different.

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severely ... but true
It was not me ... "Do not let the holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you" (Matf.7: 6).



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In Orthodoxy, this icon is revered more than the "Old Testament Trinity" (The Holy Spirit in the form of a dove).
But Trinity Rublev is the Old Testament.

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For the Armenians, Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, Hare Krishnas, atheists, art, satanists, etc. meaning something different.
And the Armenians of your who? Not Christians? In 301 AD, Christianity was accepted as the official state religion. The first in the world, among other things.

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true, stolen Bolshivikov icons, relics should be returned the church and not only for three days ..
And the picture?



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But Rublev's Trinity is the Old Testament.
Of course, thanks, that corrected. Above there was a view of the "New Testament"

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and that the Armenians of your who? Not Christians? In 301 AD, Christianity was accepted as the official state religion. The first in the world, among other things.
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I wrote only about the Orthodox shrines.
Armenian Apostolic Church (Armenian Հայաստանեայց Առաքելական Եկեղեցի; complete a formal self - the Armenian Apostolic Church; distributed but not used in the name of the Church of the Armenian-Gregorian Church) - one of the oldest Christian churches, which has a number of significant features that differentiate it from both Orthodoxy and Roman Catholicism. Usually refers to a group of religious studies non-Chalcedonian Oriental Orthodox Churches.

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And the picture?
What kind of pictures we talking about? Do you have any information about that stole the clergy from the laity pictures?



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