In that invest beginner? - Форум по искусству и инвестициям в искусство

cayman · 14-04-2008, 13:51

Hello!

Suppose I was ripe for something to invest in any picture. I want to try a small amount. Let it be $ 1000 or 3000.

What and where to buy? And can you buy something worthwhile for such money? And how much income you can expect (if at all possible)?

Meister · 14-04-2008, 20:05

cayman, as practice shows, investing in art can be from any amounts. Yes, of course not buy the masterpieces, but to buy schedule, which will grow by 20-30%per year, as if you can. Moreover, this also applies to Russian and Western artists) graphics by Picasso, Monet or the same, and most of the first names for the same money can not buy. But the second schedule of names quite a few thousand can be found. Among the Russian, I would advise, search among the Sixties schedule, with 2-3 rows of names .. but to seek proposals to galleries ... out, for example, in Elysium, a lot of work valued from 1 to 3 of thousands ... look among them. ..

Artdealer · 14-04-2008, 20:31

agree with Meister, well not really find the schedule from 1 to 3 of thousands, but do not forget to deal with Provenance

Artlover · 14-04-2008, 21:47

and what it means to deal with provenance? it can seriously affect the price?

Meister · 14-04-2008, 21:54

it can also affect the price and liquidity of the work. but the level of serious galleries Elysium is usually given a guarantee to buy things. And in Moscow, there are galleries, zarekommendovavshie itself in the market in terms of authenticity of items sold and they can safely buy the painting.
In my opinion it is important to note that the drawings. What interesting artistic component, the faster will increase the value of work. Interesting cheap graphics can grow even more rapidly than oil.

cayman · 15-04-2008, 07:43

Meister, thanks for the answers. Judging by how you're promoting gallery Elysium, obviously, you have her kind of attitude. Quite possible that the gallery Elysium able to offer decent options (although I personally think such a strange business. If Elysium gallery sells things that are so good at growing up in price, why would she do that? Is not it better to invest in the very same things wait until the price for them to grow and stabilize and sell even then? However, I do not know anything about this business and probably mistaken).

And what is the guarantee galleries Elysium and shaped it like a documentary?

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Originally Posted by Meister

And in Moscow, there are galleries, zarekommendovavshie itself in the market in terms of authenticity of items sold and they can safely buy the painting.

Can you name this picture?

Meister · 17-04-2008, 12:15

cayman, I just said about the gallery that represented on this site, and about which I heard only positive opinion. It should distinguish between the gallery business and investment. Galleries earn on the back, it makes no sense to keep the host and wait until they grow up ... they have the concept of another. about guarantees a better deal directly in the gallery itself, I'm not very up to date.

Vladimir · 19-04-2008, 21:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by cayman

Meister, thanks for the answers. Judging by how you're promoting gallery Elysium, obviously, you have her kind of attitude. Quite possible that the gallery Elysium able to offer decent options (although I personally think such a strange business. If Elysium gallery sells things that are so good at growing up in price, why would she do that? Is not it better to invest in the very same things wait until the price for them to grow and stabilize and sell even then? However, I do not know anything about this business and probably mistaken).

And what is the guarantee galleries Elysium and shaped it like a documentary?

Can you name this picture?

Elysium revolves in the language because they sell a collection Koreshkova and published catalog "Other Art". Incidentally, there is a reasonable time schedule. Generally Sixties sell many galleries, even if it is not their core business. Earlier in the sixties are well versed Movie Gallery (http://www.gallerykino.ru/), there is no reason to believe that now something has changed dramatically. Spirits of the sixties appear, for example, even in Proun "(http://proungallery.ru/ex/current/). For them it is not the main line from time to time there are simply masterpieces.

Regarding the good galleries: a practice after the antique interior publish a list of the top works antique salon with a list of galleries. Look - a list of the current 24 th Antique Salon is already published. All this is not a guarantee of successful communication, but as a rule in the list of galleries, you can trust. More than the rest.

Сергеич · 20-04-2008, 10:41

Vladimir,
I looked at the price of the sixties, unfortunately the price of the already known crossed over a hundred. Who advise of the less promoted but promising.
Prices in the range of $ 50000-70000.

Meister · 20-04-2008, 12:20

Sergeyitch, try the second row of names, Sooster, Tabenkin etc.

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14-04-2008, 20:05	Original language: Russian #2
Meister Гуру Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Москва Posts: 2,576 Thanks: 1,512 Thanked 2,996 Times in 1,037 Posts Reputation: 1814	cayman, as practice shows, investing in art can be from any amounts. Yes, of course not buy the masterpieces, but to buy schedule, which will grow by 20-30%per year, as if you can. Moreover, this also applies to Russian and Western artists) graphics by Picasso, Monet or the same, and most of the first names for the same money can not buy. But the second schedule of names quite a few thousand can be found. Among the Russian, I would advise, search among the Sixties schedule, with 2-3 rows of names .. but to seek proposals to galleries ... out, for example, in Elysium, a lot of work valued from 1 to 3 of thousands ... look among them. ..

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Artdealer Местный Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 191 Thanks: 102 Thanked 92 Times in 46 Posts Reputation: 87	agree with Meister, well not really find the schedule from 1 to 3 of thousands, but do not forget to deal with Provenance

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Meister Гуру Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Москва Posts: 2,576 Thanks: 1,512 Thanked 2,996 Times in 1,037 Posts Reputation: 1814	it can also affect the price and liquidity of the work. but the level of serious galleries Elysium is usually given a guarantee to buy things. And in Moscow, there are galleries, zarekommendovavshie itself in the market in terms of authenticity of items sold and they can safely buy the painting. In my opinion it is important to note that the drawings. What interesting artistic component, the faster will increase the value of work. Interesting cheap graphics can grow even more rapidly than oil.

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Meister Гуру Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Москва Posts: 2,576 Thanks: 1,512 Thanked 2,996 Times in 1,037 Posts Reputation: 1814	cayman, I just said about the gallery that represented on this site, and about which I heard only positive opinion. It should distinguish between the gallery business and investment. Galleries earn on the back, it makes no sense to keep the host and wait until they grow up ... they have the concept of another. about guarantees a better deal directly in the gallery itself, I'm not very up to date.

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Сергеич Авторитет Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 940 Thanks: 66 Thanked 1,047 Times in 392 Posts Blog Entries: 1 Reputation: 624	Vladimir, I looked at the price of the sixties, unfortunately the price of the already known crossed over a hundred. Who advise of the less promoted but promising. Prices in the range of $ 50000-70000.

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Meister Гуру Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Москва Posts: 2,576 Thanks: 1,512 Thanked 2,996 Times in 1,037 Posts Reputation: 1814	Sergeyitch, try the second row of names, Sooster, Tabenkin etc.