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Old 28-10-2009, 01:36 Original language: Russian        #11
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It is a hand. Just poorly written. Color in clothing and facial expression - a clear image of the Virgin Mary by Catholics. Often, instead of a combination of green and red is blue and red.
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Old 28-10-2009, 02:21 Original language: Russian        #12
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Color in clothing and facial expression - a clear image of the Virgin Mary by Catholics.
On the picture you provided - yes. In the picture above - no. Such impure colors you will not find on any image of the Virgin Mary. About face silent, everyone puts their feelings.



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Old 28-10-2009, 12:05 Original language: Russian        #13
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This or a similar picture is discussed at the forum.
The second half of the 19 th century, the guild email (hence not strong in hand), calculated for consumers with average incomes in Poland, eastern Germany, western, and Left Bank Ukrainy.Vyrezan fragment from the pictures on the Gospel as temu.Vyrezali could not drag the whole picture.



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Old 28-10-2009, 12:18 Original language: Russian        #14
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I initially generally had the feeling that this piece and the hand belongs to someone else.
Yes, I agree that this fragment is cut from the picture. Likely Italian school. Von undoubtedly colored. Such things happened in the late 18 th century during the French Revolution. When destroyed paintings on religious subjects. Probably for the sake of a masterpiece, cut out all seditious and pririsoval hand. Let us look in comparison with Raphael, at least.
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Probably for the sake of a masterpiece, cut out all seditious and pririsoval hand
Cool! And where the rest masterpiece?



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heir, totally agree!: D
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Interesting to X-ray done to see what was glossed over.



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Cool! And where the rest masterpiece?
Yeah, word spoken ... Suppose that for some people, this picture was not worth the material and artistic, as was the manner of a loved one or a generic domain.



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There is a psychological test. Paintings of the two lines - one shorter than the other.
Nine people were discussing that on the short will ukazyvaat as long.
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A tenth did not talk about conspiracy. And then he heard the views of all the previous nine shows ... right! in short as long!
... There is the charm of old paintings, especially portraits, especially when the eyes and lips potupleny bow, craquelure yes, yes paint damp, as the taste of old wine ... Yes all this in a suitable frame. So consider that five people have already told you that short line is longer.



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no doubt colored background.
See what happened when I brightened a little background:
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