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Old 11-01-2009, 17:11 Original language: Russian        #91
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Let's begin, though already the subject discussed here.
Yes, there is the height of the controversy.
Where another subject?
Let's really in this to continue.



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I can not agree with fross: in recent years, prices for art have risen higher than in the real estate, to the same - try today to sell that same property, but with a good painting there are no problems.
The sale of good real estate too is no problem (judging from the current experiences of friends trying to buy).
And real estate still grew faster, and not only in Moscow http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showthread.php?t=8595



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A good real estate sales, too, there is no problem (judging from the current experiences of friends trying to buy).
And real estate still grew faster, and not only in Moscow
  Real estate is good. Since real estate is also a lot of hassle, it is necessary to register, ezhemesechno pay for it, do repairs in touch with stroitelyami.Kartinu buy, you take the hand you carry in the car, bring domoy.Doma weigh on the wall and enjoy them, either lozhesh the warehouse (not a lot of places holds). In addition the price of an apartment starts with .... th-th, and now that later can cost th-th, you can (sometimes) to buy for "penny" A compelling text that you say? But real estate is also very good.



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Real estate is good. Since real estate is also a lot of hassle, it is necessary to register, ezhemesechno pay for it, to make repairs in touch with stroitelyami.Kartinu buy, you take the hand you carry in the car, bring domoy.Doma weigh on the wall and enjoy them, either lozhesh warehouse (does not take up much space ). In addition the price of an apartment starts with .... th-th, and now that later can cost th-th, you can (sometimes) to buy for "penny" A compelling text that you say? But real estate is also very good.
  Not very. Of plus real estate: the organized mechanism of verification "Provenance", registration of ownership, income from the lease, allowing for a certain period to recoup the cost of acquisition.

Buy a "penny" is from the field: "The probability jackpot is always the same and does not depend on whether you bought a lottery ticket or not"



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Buy a "penny" is from the field: "The probability jackpot is always the same and does not depend on whether you bought a lottery ticket or not"
Luck sprout on fertile soil (it's about professionalism). In trade, the art is much more likely udachi.Ya and not for mobility, two rukami.No big chance in art, this debate seems meaningless.



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Luck sprout on fertile soil (it's about professionalism). In trade, the art is much more likely udachi.Ya and not for mobility, two rukami.No big chance in art, this debate seems meaningless.
Yes, I do not exclude the possibility that chance, but not for a wide range of investors. Only for professionals.



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Buy a "penny" is from the field: "The probability jackpot is always the same and does not depend on whether you bought a lottery ticket or not"
It depends on where to buy.
In the secondary market, you do not buy for a penny.
But the primary, perhaps. If you yourself can see, guess, "hit the top ten." Yes, it is difficult. But for those who are in the subject is less complicated than the processing of purchase /sale of real estate.
I bought for my life: an apartment house with a plot (two certificates), and plot, but also with a separate indication on the structure, which is actually not, but the documents are, have an email address, etc.
So to me these procedures and do not want to remember, just because of nerves stomach ache.
And the picture? A pleasure and an occasion to once again hit the road to Moscow, to pass the examination (if necessary), people smart and pleasant to talk to. And much about the sale and I can not speak. Song ... This is not a zashugannyh citizens, who see all and all the bandits, "black brokers", buying real estate scam ...



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Old 12-01-2009, 00:17 Original language: Russian        #98
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Good Luck sprout on fertile soil
I'm talking about the same. But even so did the art may be lucky and not professionals (once). Wide range (for luck), a large gap in this area commerce.



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But the big chance in art, this debate seems meaningless.
I totally agree with you. And the current crisis illustrates this. Images something and price are different. It is possible, and to gift to survive the difficult moments. Finding your way on conjecture, on demand. Temporarily go into low-cost but fast liquid items. Take traffic. Pictures taken anyway. Not a masterpiece alone.



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Real estate is also a lot of hassle, we must draw, ezhemesechno pay for it, make repairs, contact stroitelyami.Kartinu buy, you take the hand you carry in the car, bring domoy.Doma weigh on the wall and enjoy or lozhesh the warehouse (does not take up much space). In addition the price of an apartment starts with .... th-th, and now that later can cost th-th, you can (sometimes) to buy for "penny" A compelling text say? But real estate is also very good.
and another property in this wonderful country are very fond of capture or take away or something like it turns out that Newton, and real estate, you no longer belong. Or, for example, joint construction, once it was planned, etc. Therefore argue that property - the best object for investments, rather than art, is not, in my opinion, correctly. In addition to all entry barrier to this market is much higher than what the market of art.
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