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Старый 08.06.2008, 05:19 Язык оригинала: Русский       #1
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"By and large, collectors - are people who are willing to pay large sums of money, because they believe that because they can get into the story.
The collection is a kind of immortality, brilliance.
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Man has always wanted and dreamed of overcoming death. There are several options. I will write a book, it will issue - I would die, and she left. Or head of a lot of children, they grow up to be like me ...
Collection of Collections are a way of overcoming death. Here Tretyakov - ordinary industrialist, which was much in Russia. But he was collecting, so stay in our memory and will come after us. Because the price of a work of art can be any.
Faust was willing to appoint any price for immortality - and collectors for some things that can become the history of art, are willing to pay for a ticket to eternity. Happened not so long ago, two or three hundred years ago, when the art was to serve as storage of wealth.
The whole world's money circulation anyway gradually settles in museums as works of art. It can not be. For example, we in Russia is a large organization Gazprom, the entire country rests on it. But the capitalization of Picasso, that is, the value of all his works - is somewhere half the value of Gazprom: 90 billion dollars.
This means that the artist, not having any license, no natural resources, or pipes, or anything else, just with his talent, creates value, comparable to the huge production Makhinov, which tries to rule the world. It says what? The value of art market - the thing is formed, and we can not say that there are some real and objective prices.
It only means that human civilization appreciates this unique creative impulse is very high. Transcendental price for a work of art simply means that we'll recognize: "Talent is more important than any material goods that surround us ......"
M. Gelman.
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Recommendations novice collectors: coolly collect works of art is impossible. This collector is a definite mania. This is a man who is willing to spend any amount of time to find a rarity veschi.Obychnym people of his motivation is unclear. If someone buys a painting, to design the interior, this does not mean that he - a collector. But such an acquisition could be a first step in discovering something new, the beginning of a careful attitude towards him, eventually transforming into a real understanding and, finally, a passion, any collection is better to start with the purchase of 5.10 good works by authors from investment considerations recommend expensive purchases - it should be a great work. Today you can buy them for about 2.10 of thousands of dollars ....

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What should orient the collector, forming his collection?
Only on his understanding of the artistic process and its taste. Understand, of course, can be one-sided and narrow, and it is easy to get wrong. After all, if fashionable artist sells well, it does not mean that he deserves, and vice versa. But the collector should not collect things that do not attract.
If he gathers not with the eyes and ears - woe to him! Passionate collector always achieve something, but if you buy only because there is money - any good it does not. Turn out the dead collection, which appear from nowhere and disappear into nowhere.
If the collector does not understand the artistic process and the market, then how could he raise a decent collection?
Must be expert consultant. If a person is exposed to the passion for antiques shopping, or as they say - "sat on an antique needle" - that without the consultant can not do. Often people try to be guided only by their taste and their views, but when the taste is not developed, then sometimes they are confronted by the failure ....


Top-10 collectors of works of art in the world

Top-200 main collectors of art in the world



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Старый 08.06.2008, 08:23 Язык оригинала: Русский       #2
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"This means that the artist, not having any license, no natural resources, or pipes, or anything else, just with his talent, creates value, comparable to the huge production Makhinov, which tries to rule the world . This tells us what? "The value of art market - the thing is formed, and we can not say that there are some real and objective prices.
It only means that human civilization appreciates this unique creative impulse is very high. Transcendental price for a work of art simply means that we'll recognize: "Talent is more important than any material goods that surround us ......" M. Gelman
In truth, a highly dubious statement. Soaring prices for works of art due to huge amount of cash savings in the world and growing inflation. Works of art were selected as the goods are not affected by inflation, and actually replaced the money. Why are works of art such goods - a separate issue. Ret viewed several reasons, but, in principle, it is not so important. The market situation is such, and it is an objective reality.

However, it is clear that under any circumstances, wealth primary. If there is no food, clothing and other essentials, no pictures will not have any significant value. And given the impending global food crisis and the growing problems of global warming, when food production is becoming more problematic, it is not clear what values will remain in demand in 20-30 years.



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Старый 19.12.2008, 12:54 Язык оригинала: Русский       #3
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In truth, a highly dubious statement. Soaring prices for works of art due to huge amount of cash savings in the world and growing inflation. Works of art were selected as the goods are not affected by inflation, and actually replaced the money. Why are works of art such goods - a separate issue. Ret viewed several reasons, but, in principle, it is not so important. The market situation is such, and it is an objective reality.

However, it is clear that under any circumstances, wealth primary. If there is no food, clothing and other essentials, no pictures will not have any significant value. And given the impending global food crisis and the growing problems of global warming, when food production is becoming more problematic, it is not clear what values will remain in demand in 20-30 years.
During the famine, my great-grandmother bartered a loaf of bread on a large gold cross with diamonds. When such emergencies occur all the values are canceled and the gold and diamonds, and bills and factories. On a desert island from hunger, nothing will save.

But we are talking about the civilized world. And here investing money in the names has a very large sense. Even diamonds can not be compared with names in painting. It has already proved that you can get a surprising number of diamonds, and this production is pegged. But the artist for his life could write a limited number of paintings.



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Старый 20.12.2008, 18:32 Язык оригинала: Русский       #4
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По умолчанию The most influential personalities of the world art community

Interesting article on ARTinvestment.RU (EA)
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2008 was a real "roller coaster ride" for the art world. On the one hand, loud records on auctions, the opening of new museums and galleries, and the emergence of new important players in the art market, on the other - the global economic crisis, which seriously intent on bend under him the art market. It is difficult to imagine a greater intensity of emotions. American Journal of Art Auction tells those who in 2008 was a "trendsetter" in the art world, those who have contributed to its globalization.

http://artinvestment.ru/invest/ratin...community.html



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Старый 20.12.2008, 18:44 Язык оригинала: Русский       #5
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Eugene, was also a reference to this article. Or not?



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Старый 20.12.2008, 18:59 Язык оригинала: Русский       #6
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Cyril Syzransky, the beginning of the post is already outdated .. it is new .. I personally German Martin Roth interested in (there is one issue.), So what would have been lost in the archives.



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По умолчанию Collegiate Dictionary Russian collectors from Peter I to Nicolas II

There are many interesting information for the attribution of paintings (list-2110 collectors, referrals). (EA)
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Collectors of fine arts
ROSSIYSKOY EMPIRE

In early 2007, as part of the publishing project Rossiyskogo Noble Assembly and the Moscow publishing house Tsentrpoligraf "Russia forgotten and unknown" in the heading "Russia lifestyle" book was published
Collectors KEEPERS AND BEAUTY
Collegiate Dictionary Russian collectors
from Peter I to Nicolas II
1700-1918 gg.
The authors of the book AP Bannikov, SA Sapozhnikov

Readers are presented book, created in 2110 in memory of local collectors of art works and their heirs. In this more than two centuries of epic sealed the names of emperors, members of the aristocracy, nobility, merchants, even ordinary civil servants, clerks, and peasants. In Russia there was no class, which is not affected, this would be inspired and noble passion for collecting and the need for beauty.
In the book, 9 albums, inserts with 660 illustrations: portraits, palaces and galleries, collectors, which makes visible the images and the fruits of our countrymen who are the creators of the Hermitage, the Historical and the Russian Museum, Tretyakov Gallery, the Museum of Fine Arts, and many other art treasures, including the so - called "Small Hermitage" - their own home museums.
As with the entire series, a book intended for a wide range of readers, in this case, art historians and museum professionals, historians and genealogists, as well as public and political figures and scientists involved in the formation of new spiritual values of a resurgent Russia.
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Старый 27.12.2008, 08:00 Язык оригинала: Русский       #8
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(Alexander Dadiani: the owner of an antique picture "Alexander Art" and director of the auction house Crostby.)
   Interviewed by Max Schulz.
How did you come in the antique business?
- I started with Faberge. From generation to generation in our family passed ikornitsa two sturgeons and small jade watch. These two things became the starting point of my collection. Gradually gathering grew into a business. First came the first store, then the second, third ... The last fifteen years I have been doing mostly fine art - mainly Russian painting. But the most biased collecting icons. However, academics and itinerants also do not leave me indifferent.
   The family had some influence on your passion for art?
- Of course. My mother was a ballerina Georgian opera, so we spent much time in Tbilisi. My childhood was spent in a house near my mother's friend - Mirel Zdanevich. She was the wife of Apollo Kutateladze - a beautiful painter and rector of the Academy of Fine Arts of Georgia. Father Mirel - Cyril Zdanevich - first discovered Niko Pirosmani. So I have long been literally lived among the works of this remarkable primitivist. Passion Pirosmani remained with me all my life - I now have a collection of several priceless works of this artist, who live in my house and have my children and grandchildren to grow up among them.
  
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Do you feel like a representative of an ancient clan?
- Certainly. Rhode Dadiani Mingrelia known since 1036. According to its influence on the history of the Georgian people with Dadiani can compete unless Bagration. I keenly feel the connection between generations. Knowing that you are not accidental, that behind you there are generations and generations of your ancestors, gives a very strong emotions. Genetic memory helps me in my studies antiques. I can not tell you how I know what this thing is good, and she - no. This is totally irrational feeling, the voice of the blood. I can not offer their own definition of beauty, but I clearly discern the true beauty coming from the works of art. И не важно — полотна это старых голландских мастеров или работы советских нонконформистов.
    What can be called a business card "Alexander Art»?
- In November of next year we will organize an exhibition under the working title "Temporary guardian of the eternal." It will feature the works not only from the funds of the gallery, but have long been part of other collections, sold us the picture. For this exhibition, we will release the directory on which work is now. Through this directory, each new client "Alexander Art" will be able to obtain a fairly complete picture of our work.
  
   You can say that "Alexander Art" two spaces. One - in the building of the restaurant "Prague", another - in Crocus City. Why do you so much?

- "Alexander Art" in "Prague" - a classic antique shop, center, who visited such famous personalities as Bill Clinton and George W. Bush, Helmut Kohl and Gerhard Schroeder. This site focuses mainly on arts and crafts. However, if the "Prague" is on the Arbat, in the antique district of Moscow, the "Crocus" benefits from its unique infrastructure, luxurious design and location. "Alexander Art" in Crocus "- more modern, secular gallery. Antique business often requires confidentiality, but because we are specially equipped with some room for very important meetings. In addition, it is in Crocus "organized a special deposit of painting, giving the opportunity to professionally maintain the collection of our clients.

  What makes the collectors to engage in the gathering? Possibility of investing money?

- I think money is here of secondary importance. In the first place - a passion, which some collectors take sometimes features of passion. Collector finds some parallel life, the lives of its collection, seeks to replenish it. Incidentally, the main advantage of our work is not one-off sales, and the ability to create unique collections.
  
What about cleaning collections?

- It takes almost more popular than the formation! As a rule, we are talking about giving the collection a certain orderliness. For example, the definition of the concept of assembly, the distinction between value types, search history, publications, archival materials to the already acquired works, the definition of identity and fill gaps in the material, selection of subjects and authors who could most fully represent the idea of meeting.
   And what is usually the dropout rate?

- Approximately 50 per cent.
  
Today many talk about the fact that the level of Antiquarian Fair in CHA is gradually growing.

- I would not say so. There are five or six people, on which the Salon, the rest simply create the background. On the first I do not want to talk, because I do not want to do their advertising, while the others be offended if I call them "ballast". Generally, Antiquarian salon turned into tusovka professionals. This is a good market not only for business, how to communicate.
  
You can say the same about the International Fine Art Fair in the Manege?

- He is still young enough, but because, like all not completely settled, attracted great interest. But I think a couple of years salon also become a kind of club.
  
There is a stereotype is a thing as pride for the company. What it is exactly for you?

- The pride of the company - a reputation: the greater good, the good things we hear about our work, the more I realized that occupies a prominent place in our profession.
  
Do you have a professional dream?

- I strive to create a collection that proudly could smuggle across the world. My dream is that this exhibition was accompanied by mass of pleasant things: crowds, rave reviews from critics, the buzz among art historians. Then, there can be at peace: dwell at home or on the coast of France, I'll write a book. Something like Hemingway's The Old Man and the Sea "... Little boat I got.

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Father Mirel - Cyril Zdanevich - first discovered Niko Pirosmani.
By the way, just learned.
In 1949, Cyril Zdanevich was repressed - sent from Moscow to Vorkuta in the north for 15 years. After 10 years, he returned to the old and sick, but, nevertheless, remains good and, as always sociable person.
He is buried in the Pantheon in Tbilisi public figures in 1969.
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book, created in 2110 in memory of local collectors of art works and their heirs.
Thanks for the information! Course, a very interesting publication. But, for all mnogogchislennosti referred to domestic collectors, the list is not complete. One can only express the hope that work will continue.



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