Collecting and Collectibles

[Pavel]

Why in our country collectors are afraid? Why so little collecting, so rare collectors? For the development of the arts is very important in any country, why do not we. Why is that only the rich have to buy the painting?

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Сообщение от Pavel

Why is that only the rich have to buy the painting?

Well, what can a poor buy, for example, such a picture?
Hanger, 2005,
oil on canvas, 150cm x 120cm,
Price 5,033,600 USD.

[Pavel]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy

Well, what the poor can buy, for example, such a picture?
Hanger, 2005,
oil on canvas, 150cm x 120cm,
Price 5,033,600 USD.

There are other artists, cheaper, foreign, too. It's important to collectors, why not? Buying paintings always assumes the sale and if someone buys a million then calculates sell at least $ 2 million. We have this possible? Where? Where can I sell a collection of paintings and go live with the money? Or donations to museums pooschryaet kollektsiolnirovanie?

[SAH]

Сообщение от Pavel

buy paintings always assumes the sale and if someone buys a million then calculates sell at least $ 2 million. We have this possible? where? Where can I sell a collection of paintings and go live with the money?

Paul you want to know the exact address? If you suddenly find the address, I hope tell, share with the forum users think too much fun. If you are hinting at the fact that it has long been possible in the western auctions then agree we are just developing, all ahead.

[Pavel]

Сообщение от SAH

Pavel you want to know the exact address? If you suddenly find the address, I hope tell, share it with the forum users think too much interesting. If You allude to the fact that it has long been at Western auctions may then agree we have only evolve, all ahead. <!--~ A ~-->

We are developing a long time. So what's the matter?

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Сообщение от sergejnowo

Sorry, that answer his question, and where they are collectors that is?

But seriously, in Germany, from time to time slipping television reports about the collectors.
As a general rule in Section humor or purpose you can imagine.
Someone collects statues of elephants, and some cigarette lighters and pens.
However, if you seriously listen to the story collector, the conclusion is the same.
The collection occupies 50 or even 100 square meter space, the very long bursts does not bring the moral and the most important thing anyone is not needed and does not surprise anyone.
What type of economically, physically and morally stalemate.
99.9%of spectators at the same time twisting his finger to his temple.


is, but who cares?
What to collect something?
Take the academic realism in painting, with all its charm and elegance in technique, color and ability to discern the artist's subtle details in the plot.
Interest then ended in the late 19 th and early 20 th century. Why and what the next question.
You do not need to send to the Crimean shaft on the market, one that along the waterfront.
There in fact is nothing new, one peremalevka not very high.
Yes, there's decent stuff, you have, including, but then for 5000 rubles can not buy.
At the western auctions can buy relatively cheap paintings in realistic style, but it is good /cheap only in comparison with Russian realism of the second half of the 19 th century. Western masterpiece average artist is again not cheaper 15.000 - 20.000 euros.
Where is the money Zine? (C)

let alone collectors oku3rkov and stop for serious collectors. Finish marks inclusive.
To begin with, with what money? Suppose you have collected a few papers. Certainly there are those from which you would like to get rid of. Do you sell these works, and suddenly finds that the sale of one of the earliest works was a famous artist, and instead of $ 100 that you paid him in the distant year, you got a nice money and experience, who need to buy. This is normal. That's where the money.

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Сообщение от Pavel

Why in our country collectors are afraid? Why so little collecting, so rare collectors? For the development of the arts is very important in any country, why do not we. Why is that only the rich have to buy the painting?

 What makes you think that collectors are afraid (it would be interesting to know-what and exactly what "fear"), few and feeble? On the contrary, large numbers of people very thoughtfully engaged kollektsionirovaniem.V confirmation of this fact - dozens of sites, forums ((registration in the former USSR) on collecting. Including painting.
If you have decided to talk only about art, then so be it was to declare in the name of the topic.
You, for some reason it all comes down to the big money, a benefit that is to issues of cost investment - probably the name of the site requires and davleet.
This is a very narrow approach, it is no longer collecting a professional occupation. The bulk of collectors are ordinary people who dedicate their free time and some of its resources for learning and to a lesser, much lesser extent, for obogascheniya.Istinnye collectors really aware, it is impossible to grasp immensity and sosredatachivayut attention to one of the most interesting from their point of view teme.Pod this topic (if you talk about the painting) is collected and studied everything - books, catalogs, postcards, criticism and of course painting itself - the best of it and vozmozhnosti.Vot is not serious kollektsionirovaniem.Sereznym sense - serious money, but in the sense of seriously studying the object of collecting or gathering.

Сообщение от sergejnowo

The collection takes 50 or even 100 square meters of space, itself no longer brings the moral bursts and most importantly no use to anyone and no one is surprised.
What type of economically, physically and morally stalemate.
99.9%of spectators at the same time twisting his finger to his temple.

Well, this again illustrates the fact that money is not a substitute for intellect. Also, a person who earns money by work rather than receive them from the state to maintain high social standards, which is still practiced in the EU despite the obvious malignancy, will think before mindlessly spend.

[mihailovoh]

Pavel,
Kollektsionery.eto enthusiastic than the men. little sdvinutye.V basically all laid in childhood with bubbles or marok.Vazhno have access to the meeting itself podobnyh.a access we have no in suburbia and material dostatok.ne talking about wealth.
Painting is more difficult. There is still need to have vkus.obschee razvitie.opyt.vozmozhnost store. .. In addition to displaying visitant. who accidentally hope urvat.v fall into this category UNIT passed through monety.marki.i etc. ..

[Pavel]

I will try to partially answer this way:
http://catalogue.gazette-drouot.com/...les/visite.jsp
This hdozhnik-altruist, but money is a value on things, and the value determined during the sale. On the other hand when the artist deliberately persuaded to sell the valuable thing for cheap, it smells bad
You should not think that the collection of stamps and the bubbles can not be expensive.

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Сообщение от Pavel

You should not think that the collection of stamps and the bubbles can not be expensive.

Pavel, as a rule, the collection (collection) bubbles suvernirov, tarelochek, etc. in the sale are worth less than when buying .. (With rare exceptions)

[тандем]

Сообщение от mihailovoh

Kollektsionery.eto enthusiastic than the men. little sdvinutye.V basically all laid in childhood with bubbles or marok.Vazhno have access to the meeting itself podobnyh.a access we have no in suburbia and material dostatok.ne talking about wealth.
Painting is more difficult. There is still need to have vkus.obschee razvitie.opyt.vozmozhnost store. .. In addition to displaying visitant. who accidentally hope urvat.v fall into this category UNIT passed through monety.marki.i etc. ..

To say "shifted "..... This view is present in the environment of conventional inhabitants, and among professional traders collectibles.
Agree with you that interest is laid in childhood and every collector is a long way to the joys and frustrations, gain experience and choice of priorities. All were held by collectors obsessed with improving the collection, its credibility and exclusivity. And thus his own authority in terms of its obscheniya.Kstati about communicating with their own kind "- if the" scoops "it was quite active in various societies and informal fees, but now, thanks to the Internet communication and information sharing have become dostapnee many times. I do not know about any remote question - where on the bulb duyut.Est there yet where is she?
   . Today, to make his collection public, the well-known, the possibility is there. It would be a desire to give everything for nothing or for a nominal tsenu.Navernoe this is the price for the opportunity to save a collection of raspyleniya.Vybor for this collector is not easy and no one is immune from the biggest disappointment .....