Scene V. Astaltseva

[vrubel]

Please help us in assessing the picture Astaltseva VV
These paintings:
South Urals "in 1977
Oil on canvas. Size 40x80

For the price actually sell this picture?

http://www.artlib.ru/index.php?id=11...amp;iid=116646

[Konstantin]

Auctioned there. This internet search throws to sites which sell paintings Astaltseva. Price $ 5000-10000. In my opinion the price countries (too high). Earlier on August 4, none of the forum is not prompt, I try to learn in the galleries on Soviet art.

[Евгений]

Konstantin, Rating artist 4-in, you're right, the price is inflated.
Sales in Savkome 2007: 250-500 USD medium sized raboty.Odnu work appreciated 2,5-3,5 ve. (but sold or not is unclear).

[diana-che]

Сообщение от Eugene

Konstantin, Rating artist 4-in, you're right, the price is inflated.
Sales in Savkome 2007: 250-500 USD medium-sized raboty.Odnu work appreciated 2,5-3,5 ve. (but sold or not is unclear).

Eugene, Soviet-rating - not the ultimate truth. It is installed by whom and when? Sovkom buys work almost on weight. Well I know what I say, we have this gallery often collaborated. They are expensive to sell a few works, and the rest put down the shaft at bargain prices to unload their hangars. From the works Astaltseva presented at Sovkome - actually a couple of pictures (not the thumbnail), the rest - waste production, which the artist is usually sent into the garbage. There they were seen and picked up. At Gelos also passed steam-troechka facing things, the rest - from the same series. So on intnrnetovskim Sales judged not worth it. Chat with a serious collector

[Евгений]

Сообщение от diana-che

Constantine, I would not warm to your site with answers and recommendations, although not in the subject.

Сообщение от diana-che

auction sales for the last time that many bad.

Сообщение от diana-che

Now prices. I'm surprised your unprofessional opinion and evaluation.

Dear Diana, the prices: not me, not Constantine, we do not tell fortunes from coffee grounds, has published sales data, according to him we are doing right vyvody.Vy prices of Astaltsova may be different, such as study materials (cardboard, oil 50x70) is one price, oil on canvas 50x70, different price, but here is a small site where they sell canvas medium sized, normal, finished work. Prices from 50-75 t.rubley .. (when buying more, I think, still possible and discounts), and such examples can still be likely to find and they can show you.
http://www.artlib.ru/index.php?id=11...0&user_serie=0
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Dear Diana let
 links to auctions by this artist at prices 10 -15 TW, where these sales?, you do not want to publish these data (for obscure reasons), but write, we are wrong (low) estimate of work dakazhite that you are right ..
But the reality is such that the work Astaltsova can buy 1,5 -2 t.u.e. (of medium size) and these are facts that is difficult to argue.
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Сообщение от diana-che

Eugene, Soviet-rating - not the ultimate truth. It is installed by whom and when?

Dear Diana, this is not a "Soviet-" rating, as you write, and directory of "One Art Retingham" released "Professional Union of Artists of Russia (in its data on more than 40 t.hudozhnikah. 2008, 15 edition).

Сообщение от diana-che

We are working with major private collectors around the world. Do you need them the address for personal purposes?

If you sell the work of foreigners at inflated prices to several times, what can we say?, Young Diana, a good art dealer.

[usynin2]

I actually have a good suggestion: diana-che buying this work of a true European prices (minus a percentage) and sells dear to its customers abroad! Everybody is happy! Dealers and specialists of the Forum ashamed and confounded, and the seller happy picture! < "- ~ 7 7 ~--><!--~ ~-->

[diana-che]

Dear dealers! Sorry for having asked a harsh tone, giving this very reason some opponents do not appear in the gentlemen's form, and simply, to be rude to a stranger, who personally had not applied. Fact that it is the evaluation of the creative heritage of a particular artist's plucked from the context of art, small works are not the first series, shown on the above mentioned auctions. I hope you will agree that "Above the Eternal Peace" Levitan, for example, the work of an entirely different order than the preparatory sketch for the same master. And it should be quite different, regardless of the material and size. You appreciate art as the length of material in the store. Type, a large piece of silk better than a piece of calico a smaller size, but how and by whom it is shown - not the essence.
Besides, many of you are as prone to exaggeration and distortion, specific prices, I did not write. For mentally balanced members of correspondence, which, fortunately, too, have, to announce: I live and work in Europe, in Russia are rare, with local dealers (as it turned out, fortunately) do not communicate. Our gallery is not engaged in dealer sales. We have representatives in Russia, who agree on direct sales is the first of a number of artistic, creative individuality of the artist works directly with the owners. And we, in turn, find collectors in Europe and North America who want to have in their collections is stylistically recognizable, title, indicative of a number of Soviet artists. Of these sales, I do own conclusions. Make public the names of buyers and sellers, I do not have the right, subscribe gave. I do not understand why my opinion of only one artist led to a vicious, to slyunoizverzheniya, the reaction of local verbiage. Gentlemen, we're not competitors, we did not intersect, and, I hope I never encounter each! Do not worry so take care of your health! Well you're so excited you? Some of the same Astaltseva of the Internet and at auctions, can be effectively evaluated in 1-1,5 thousand dollars. You're absolutely right, these figures, but only with respect to these specific works. Two or three I've seen things and that is cheaper. Come across things and quite decent, priced lower than they should, even dumping dealer auction Gelos. Price same policy in general is very strange, and uncertain. Often the best work is assessed much lower than the worst. Not evaluated the state of the work. Some Dmitri hard in different places trades clearly unfinished work - podmalevkom, arguing that the experts Sovkoma appreciate her 100 thousand. As such, the picture is not able to distinguish Ferapontovo of Kolomna. Bravo, Russian dealer! Here you all to earnestly discuss the artist, but nobody told the seller that exhibited their work ruined. Even the photo shows that she is flooded with either varnish, or darkened varnish late overlay. Work to restore to, but not appreciated. About Sovkome: Of course, schischennuyu palette knife with a realistic picture could be viewed as a complete work of avant-garde, but the appraiser should be aware to what style of this artist worked and, therefore, to evaluate and take things to the auction. That is, should be a professional.
In any adequate public at first received detailed information about the creative face of the artist as a whole, with all the artistic medium of the same time, visualize a place among the masters of his contemporaries, and only then do so cosmic in scope statements and conclusions, as in these pages. Otherwise it turns the situation described in the parable of the elephant and the blind.
The desire to engage in this rotten, as it turned out, the controversy, I have actually called peremptory and not very professional in the conventional world view, statements made by some respondents on the evaluation of all the works of masters of such a small number of products and nonexponential. I'm on this step very sorry, more on your forum will not go. Something I've lost the habit ten years from the fangs of our okolotvorcheskoy Russian intelligentsia. Your wildly market me a little scared and surprised. Chur me, mind you! I wish all the commercial success, but somehow too evil characters come across here. Hungry, probably ...

[Кирилл Сызранский]

diana-che, brava!
B-R-A-V-A !!!

Well, the curtain ...

[diana-che]

Lord feared the dealers! I am very flattered that you have deleted my last entry. This further convinced me of bias your forum. For a small amount of time that I had the displeasure to communicate on these pages, I noticed the cohesion of your group. I noticed that for every sneeze, you put each other all sorts of "thank you", artificially raising the ranking of each other in the forum. I noticed you do not answer the specific questions and exposes what is advantageous to you. I understand that you - dealers, and you have to artificially bring down the prices that you could buy with a view to further sale. You accused me unfounded. Once I brought a whole page of concrete evidence with real examples, my account there and then disappeared from the forum. Lord, who as a child spoiled little smiles, our gallery is not selling spoiled pictures do not need me to advise that I buy. I seriously do their labor, and can distinguish between each artist, with paintings by working at the moment, a "bad job of intact, finished and unfinished from schischenny canvas of artistic reception. You'd better get a zeal displayed to his guests - sellers. You people asked a specific question about the value of their original works. You could not tell him that the thing needs restoration and how it affects the price. You just wanted to emphasize his own importance and imaginary professionalism. Again, what a professional can not be the one who makes art rating based on a random selection of works is clearly defective, very random, those that are incidental owners put up for sale as unnecessary. A professional should know all the creativity of the artist that he himself is judged, and that qualified to give advice to owners of works, with no special education and podgotovki.Ved for that you have created your forum. Or not to do?
Professional can not be unaware that in addition to auctions, there are other ways of selling and if he does not say, so has its own goals and interests. I understand that you are not hard to hunt down and remove not liking your opponent. But the Internet is big and artistic world even more. There are other means of communication. Too bad you both, gentlemen dealers. Again, not very professional. The blow must be able to hold differently. With dignity.

[Konstantin]

Lord feared the dealers! I am very flattered that you have deleted my last entry. This further convinced me of bias your forum.

diana-che what have the dealer? We (the administration) have deleted your message because they found it insulting to the forum.
Want to talk or even argue badly - please, but politely.

The desire to engage in this rotten, as it turned out, the controversy, I have actually called peremptory and not very professional in the conventional world view, statements made by some respondents on the evaluation of all the works of masters of such a small number of products and nonexponential. I'm on this step very sorry, more on your forum will not go. There's something I'm unaccustomed to ten years from the fangs of our Russian okolotvorcheskoy intellectuals.

And yet you're here again.
Before you post a message on the forum, you probably read about what is written and how. And apparently were satisfied, otherwise why register and write?
The fact that you do not like the answer - alas, sometimes happens.